posted Tue, 09/22/2026 - 11:29
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Has anyone ever used masteron along with test and Dbol to mitigate the water retention and other estrogenic side effects?
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A friend of mine tried this combination. According to him, water retention was lower with Master, but it didn't completely solve the problem. Master isn't a substitute for monitoring estradiol levels, especially when using testosterone and Dianabol. A lot depends on how your body responds.
I’m running it right now and then 0.5 of letro eod
75mg Dbol and 60mg mast 25 test 25 tren ace ed
ColeBennett123Mast can make the look dryer but imo guys confuse that with actually controlling estrogen. Test + dbol can still bring plenty of water and e2 issues so I wouldnt add another compound just to cover sides from the first one. Check BP bloods diet sodium/carbs and what the dbol is doing first. Let mast do its job instead of treating it like an AI
marshYUsing Masteron to mitigate the water retention and estrogenic sides of Dbol and Test is an old-school approach, but it is fundamentally flawed. Masteron only masks estrogenic side effects at the receptor level; it does not actually lower serum estradiol. Dbol aromatizes into methylestradiol, which is incredibly potent and will spike your blood pressure and cause severe water retention regardless of the Masteron. You still absolutely need a proper AI like Aromasin on hand.
Furthermore, if you are running this stack, you have to be certain your Masteron is legitimate and not just cheap Test Prop, which would only multiply your estrogen issues. I strictly use P h a r m - 8 9 9 for my Mast and Test because their brewing is highly accurate and I know the compound is authentic. Do not rely on Masteron to do an AI's job, especially with a compound as wet as Dbol.
Counter productive to cycle. Imo folks run dbol way too high then get water or e2 issues. I used to use pharmacy dbol. Ya I'm old. 15 to 20mg split every 4 hrs thru the day was pumps and growing without BP water e2. But now jump into 50mg and no idea of e2 control.
Water...start at 1000mg vit c a day.
How bout your prior cycles and stats? Build a cycle towards goals. Wet cycle...dry cycle. Dry imo is spring beach time. Fill it in bro...
ColeBennett123Yeah I agree bro. Too many guys jump dbol way too high then complain about water BP and e2. Imo goal comes first then build the cycle around it. Wet or dry depends what you actually want
Nice part of a compound like dbol is short half life so adjusting is easier. I like to get a lil wet and enjoy the strength and happy mood it brings. Good carbs and the pumps are great
My stats are on my profile. I run the same thing every time. Test mast tren anavar
Then you got your answers. Why ask? Do it
Mast, winny, anavar, tren, etc won’t do shit for water retention if your e2 is sky high from the test and dbol. You can easily be washed out and bloated on all the DHTs you can handle if you don’t have a handle on your e2 and then electrolyte balance.
Something like primo or bold would help only in the sense of lowering your e2. Mast does not lower e2
Masteron does not lower estrigern? I didnt know that and I wanted to run a mast 200mgs 400mgs primo and 200mgs test cycle but was afraid the primo and mast would lower estrogen
There is some anecdotal evidence that it might lower e2 a little on certain individuals, but for the masses.. it does not
Mast behaves more like a Serm
U guys need to Wright a review on masteron
Ya...here's one....o buddy on here thought mast was a cheap primo. Spent a week in the ice because he couldn't piss. Oh ya....side effects. Catheter for a week and shat on his cycle. Use it as intended....not a suppliment
How much mast did he use thats crazy
700mg. People kept posting mast was just like primo. Mast doesn't promote muscle like primo at all. It's used precontest because that's why its used. Hardening. Not building. It's weird to see science recreated for cool versus using it to help a body grow. Folks choose a wet cycle for mass but why?? Well kreb cycle etc...what happens IN your body. Same reason creatine gets pushed. Creatine rose during deca cycle....making cell volumizing happen. Water in cell increase
Followed with more nutrients IN the cell. Followed with strength gains. Muscle gains. Like adding dbol which adds water....and you're strong as fuck. So add in too much drying components and then ya lost the entire idea of wet mass.
Reality we should be looking at goal...wet or dry and end results. Especially when using finishing products. Should look at complimentary chems. And reality that chems only speed recovery. So if the 165lb 6ft tall dude wants gains...it ain't the chems.
He got deported for using mast? Jesus fucking Christ..
Hahahaha! Here illegally while juicing illegally. Drinks whiskey on ice....lights and sirens....
Did you know if you take too much masteron you can get all the same shitty crashed estrogen sides? I just found that out taking 700 test and 700 mast
What ratio of test to mast did you find yourself good with?
2-1 test to mast
So.high doses of masteron lower estrogen?
I don't think I ever crashed my estrogen i ran a blend of 100mgs tren ace mast p and test p every day shots a couple of times but only for 4 weeks
No it doesn’t lower it, it just overpowers the estrogen in your body leaving you with the same side effects of crashed estrogen
So its just blunting the effects of high estrogen? Not lowering it specifically?
It competes against estrogen… doesn’t lower it. Your estrogen stays the same, but uber always done 2-1 test to mast e and it’s great but 1-1 is too much apparently. I currently have 4 estrogen patches on my stomach and it’s hardly getting the job done.
Wow that is interesting I learn a new thing everyday here