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Ok so I've been preparing for my next cycle. I just got done running a 14week bulk with similar to the bulk Phase below minus the anadrol and only half the deca amount. During the last cycle my weight gain stopped at about week 12 and even ramping calories up to 4700/day range I couldnt push past that barrier, so I ended the cycle there I had planned on 16weeks . So my thought process was this time run the 14weeks again and instead of cutting it off there go straight into a calorie deficit and cut the last few weeks. Being on AAS still, I should retain what muscle I gained and cut some of the fat that was put on at first.
What are opinions on this cycle below. Dosage and lengths. What should change? Should I lower the test and deca sooner? Should I run the EQ longer? Should I switch compounds around? Any thoughts.
Adex .5mg e3d
Caber on hand as needed
And will have p5p
Back to trt dosage wk21
Bulk Phase
1-4 Adrol 50 mg/day
1-14 Test Cyp 500 mg/week
1-14 Equipiose 800 mg/week
1-14 Deca 300 mg/week
Cut Phase
15-20 Anavar 50 mg/day
15-20 Test Cyp 200 mg/week
15-20 Tren A 300 mg/week
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I’ve never understood the bulk then cut with no break..
In my opinion it didn’t give the new muscle tissue gained any actual time to get established in the body. Going into a deficit after gaining maybe at best 1-4lbs of muscle plus some extra water and new fat tissue isn’t going to make the body target just the fat tissue to use as energy.. it’s gonna use the new muscle tissue as well..
Even throwing muscle sparing hormones in the mix isn’t a magic wand.
I’ve heard of lean bulks, or growing into a show when starting lean.. that’s not usually the case after a real bulk cycle of growth.
A bulking growth cycle should add a bunch of water and plenty of nutrients to develop new tissue, then it’s solidified with the greater loads being kept on it over time and gradually trimmed of fat after that’s been accomplished.
I’m not saying what you suggest is impossible, but some time to mature the new tissue (time off cycle) isn’t a bad thing. It’s cliche, but Rome wasn’t built in a day..
Rustyhookerjust got done running a 14week bulk
So thats after 18weeks off
WannagethugerI had planned on cruising for 14weeks not 18
RustyhookerPerfect....didnt need you coming back after stroke.
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Cut phase use your trt dose imo. Bulk cuts are hard unless youre low bf at start. Or you fight for mediocre finish. But again at week 14 if youre not lean...drop the deca and drol. Lower test and let eq combo run ya til trt doses start.
RustyhookerYou negged me for asking a question @Wannagethuger? So you get negged 2. Guess that works!
Bulking doesn't mean getting fat. So with a proper bulk you will maximize muscle gain and minimize fat gain. You should look good during a bulk, not big, puffy, fat and soft. I would recommend a cyclic bulking approach. Get rid of that cut phase at the end. That is nonsense.
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This is perfect advice. I love combining cyclic bulking with my anadrol pulses. Run anadrol bulking for 2 weeks, drop the anadrol, keep calories high for a further week to try to minimise weight dropping. Then a 1 week cut to reset insulin sensitivity. Back into the anadrol and bulking. Rinse and repeat for the duration of cycle.
WannagethugerCan dbol be ran the same way?
Adrol is pulsed because of its low binding affinity. Running it longer produces no further benefits and only additional sides. That is not the case with dbol.
Resetting insulin sensitivity is the key. Without doing that all those extra cals eventually just go into building up fat reserves and not any muscle.
WannagethugerI didn't get fat my last cycle or very puffy once I lowered my test dose back down. I kept the diet clean. So are you recommending I just go straight into another bulk since I'm still pretty lean (I can still see decent abs) And if so what are your thoughts on the bulk Phase I posted above ran 14-16wks (I will read your post once I'm done replying here. Sorry if these questions are answered there)
The lower your bodyfat is before bulking the more muscle mass you will gain vs fat. As your BF climbs the ratio of fat vs muscle gained switches over to more fat than muscle gained. That is why you want to be as lean as possible before bulking. You just gain more muscle that way and much less fat. Just run your normal cycle for 14-16 wks using the cyclic bulking approach. You won't hit that wall like you did last cycle because you will keep resetting your insulin sensitivity. If using Adrol, you should pulse it 2wks on 2off to maximize the benefits from it.
Wannagethuger2weeks on 2weeks off for a total for how long on can it be ran this way?
Can run it whole cycle if you take proper precautions and keep an eye on enzymes.