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i’ve been lifting for about 10 years, and plan on competing, i’m about to start my first cycle, test and tren. How long do i need to be on test before adding tren? Can i immediately just hop on both, or do i need to wait ?

Pumped_'s picture

TRT and Tren is like a BigMac and Diet Coke. Dont go together and dont belong in the same sentence.

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liverpool_96's picture

what about coke zero?

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Pumped_'s picture

Haha yeah 580 calories, 34g of total fat (11g saturated fat) 1,060mg of sodium, but the diet soda makes them sleep at night lol

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trennythingspossible's picture

Basically everyone already laid it out for you champ so imma keep it simple just to double down on what everyone already said. Don’t touch tren for first cycle, test only. You’ll grow tremendously strictly on él testo. Keep it simple and enjoy the ride

Skinnyboy63's picture

Test only for first cycle so you can learn how to control side effects do more research an how old are you bud

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TheOGof93's picture

I would strongly recommend trying something other than Tren for a first cycle. I would stick to test only first. I will be nice cause other people probably will grill you but don't go fucking yourself up the first time around. Add some EQ or run some Anavar with your test first. See how the compounds affect you, get bloodwork done so you can see how just the different doses of test affect your body, and then work your way up. I know it's easy to want to jump straight into the deep end, but I promise you the wait is worth it not only for the quality of what you will build but most importantly your health. Just my 2 cents.

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DleciousRoids's picture

As many have said here before. First cycle should be test only, be smart and do bloods prior and then as you cycle as well, you’ll have some insane gains off of test only. No need for something else, let alone something as harsh as Tren.

One Rule I have gone by, and many others may agree, is that I try one compound at a time, so I can see how my body reacts to it and what I feel like on it. For example, test only, see how your bloods are, see how you feel and what side effects you get. Then add one compound onto the test in a later cycle. Don’t start with two compounds, it’s harder to note which are causing which side effects sometimes. Then later in life you can test other things if you so wish and are doing it intelligently. Just my two cents, as it has made it easy for me to justify and see what compounds work for me and don’t.

Main thing is be safe, and smart. Too many young kids these days giving and getting terrible advice on social media. There’s A LOT of smart guys on this thread, use them to your advantage and research and learn.

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TheOGof93's picture

100% I agree.. When you add multiple things at once especially before you know how even test affects you, you're not gonna know what substance is causing what or helping this or that etc. Definitely only adding one thing at a time is the way to go.

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Roastbeast86's picture

I would run some low dose eq for around 16 weeks before tren. Tren at a 100mgs kicks my ass rather quick after around six weeks. Test with low dose eq is a great cyc. Test to eq 3 to 1 works great for me.

Mrtommorrow1987's picture

Tren replacement therapy.

I won’t flame you anymore but anabolics are not something to just play with. You need to figure out how higher does test mess with your system’s lipids, BP, estro, skin, everything.
Once you get all that down over a cycle or two and want to ride the Tren dragon (please do more research). Know that you are selecting a compound that is prob the least safe and not really for beginners in anabolics due to the high incidence of side effects.

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Aggieguy's picture

Sounds like you are a little short on the brains. You won't even make it to competition because you are wanting your first cycle to be Tren a compound you never have used and can have very bad side effects.

  1. Have you done any blood work to see what your baselines are for Test, estrogen, liver and kidney, Hematocrit, Lipids, exc.
  2. You need to research, You need an Ai and Serm on hand know the difference between the two? Do you know the importance of estrogen in muscle building. You plan on keeping your balls or letting them shrivel up to a pea?
  3. Do you even know what a PCT is and what you need for it? Or do you understand TRT vs Cruising.

There is also good advice below I would take it if I were you or you won't be competing at all ever.

Roastbeast86's picture

Well said bro.

Bodhi's picture

Jesus dude. You’re in way over your head. Tren has some serious mental and physical sides. Like fuck you up bullshit.

Cardiovascular damage (cholesterol destruction, atherosclerosis, heart attack risk)
Cardiac enlargement and long-term heart strain
Severe lipid imbalance (HDL crash, LDL increase)
Kidney stress and potential renal damage
Chronic neuroinflammation and possible amyloid plaque formation in the brain (Alzheimer’s)
Elevated blood pressure
Severe sleep disruption and insomnia
Psychological effects (anxiety, aggression, paranoia, mood instability)
Endocrine suppression (natural testosterone shutdown)
Prolactin-related sexual dysfunction
Reduced cardiovascular endurance and shortness of breath
Night sweats and thermoregulation issues
Appetite suppression and metabolic strain
Acne and oily skin
Accelerated hair loss if genetically prone
Tren cough after injection

You’ve never run testosterone alone, you think adding one of the most powerful steroids to your first run is a smart idea. Are you fucking kidding me?

Where did you get this fucking bright idea? Insta? Reddit? TikTok?

Good luck in the ER trying to explain what fucked up shit you did to yourself. Cause that’s exactly where you’re going with this fucking dumb ass idea.

First cycle is test only for a reason.

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TheOGof93's picture

The shortness of breath is what killed me I was on 100mgs a week and I couldn't even walk up the stairs without feeling like I just ran a mile. That's aside from everything else you listed that it affects inside as well.

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PimpdaddyJ's picture

My kidneys start to hurt at the 8 week point of tren. Besides the fav that it makes me a raging, horny psychopath. I last took it 10 years ago, doubt I’ll ever take it again

Khandum's picture

If I could have gave two thumbs up on this post I would have, well put sir, well put.

press1's picture

If you are going to do things the proper way rather than act like a retarded 18 year old Influencer - then Trenbolone should be a fifth cycle compound or thereabouts AFTER you have tried other additional compounds you can add alongside Testosterone. You work your way up and build your muscle and tendons to sustain heavier weights along the way - that is unless you are eager for some kidney function loss and LVH already.

Run 500mg per week of Testosterone first before you use anything else and stay on that for 14 weeks to build a good base of muscle and training knowledge whilst using Steroids.

TeaBody's picture

As the dudes said below, your first cycle is Test only. There are multiple reasons for this.. the most important is side effects. When cycling you never add more than 1 compound to a cycle that you have never used. If you were to get a bad reaction or unbearable side effects then you wouldn't know which compound is giving you those side effects. You should use this concept on all medications/compunds to be honest.

Knowing that, all first time users should use Test E or Test C cycle, depending on your bf% and history of nutrient/gym time, 400-500mg of Test is overall pretty safe. However, you will need need to know estrogen levels from that amount and what AI (Aromatase Inhibitors) is needed. Then you need to research compounds needed for your PCT (Post Cycle Therapy). All information for this these questions can be found on this site.

My recommendation to you... spend hours researching on this site. Buy all needed products for your cycle FIRST ie ) Test, AI, PCT, then get your cycle critiqued on here (https://www.eroids.com/cycles). Make the needed adjustments, then start your cycle. There's a lot of knowledgeable guys on here, if you take their advice, you will maximize your cycle and grow.

PimpdaddyJ's picture

lol it’s a weird post. Lift 10 years with nothing then bam let’s do tren. Sounds bizarre

AlbertC688's picture

i do have an AI on hand, forgot to mention

TheIcon's picture

May also need Caber. May also need a lawyer if you are married.

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