-3 Sarms vs Steroids
For context, Sarms are meant to be more selective towards skeletal muscle. On the other hand steroids are less selective and have tons of side effects when abused in high doses for long durations of time. Sarms are way less researched and are newer, but are meant to have almost no side effects, but still enhance muscle growth.
My personal experience with sarms, was a ostarine,cardarine and mk677 cycle. (Yes I know cardarine and mk677 are not sarms). I took 25mg mk677, 10mg cardarine and 50mg of ostarine for 3 months. All in all I experienced 0 serious side effects.
The minor side effects I experienced was lethargy and extreme hunger,and water retention from the mk677.
My cardio and stamina increased from cardarine. And my strength and muscle growth increased from ostarine.
No hair loss, just slight test suppression symptoms because I didnt use a test base, only dhea as a estrogen base. I didn't experience any liver damage symptoms or pain. I'm now running only 200mg test cyp. I can comfortably say ostarine is very comparable to 200mg of cyp, maybe even stronger. I was alot dryer, and more cut on ostarine even while in a caloric surplus. Only downside to sarms is they can't be used together with steroids because sarms knock steroids off the androgen receptor. Sarms are extremely selective.
Put your Questions about sarms and Experiences with Sarms down below. Lets discuss.
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To express and prove your point, you can just post a photo before and after using SARMs.
But anyway, this is your personal opinion and probably only those who see steroids only on the internet can confirm your opinion
nothing will replace classic steroids. testosterone is the best...
Peptides>Sarms
I had a feeling the guy "just asking questions" was going to eventual devolve into a thread like this.
He has no self awareness whatsoever lol
Yep, this one is on me. Anytime someone tries to force or facilitate a topic of discussion making passive aggressive statements like that, it should’ve been a red flag, instead I encouraged him to start a forum topic.
Whats a sarm is that like chinese sperm?
Yes
Its modern steroids
I know bro glad you like sarms
Typical SARM user behavior below
Telling the truth is a sarm side effect
RustyhookerSo basically youre now all across the board like a bitchbsby negging everyone that disagreed. Okay...lets play
Theres 14 year olds that look better then you and are natty hahhahahahaha
Post up your ""gainz "" bro
Would love to see that 200lbs 15% lean shape of you
RustyhookerYou got negs on like 50 different forums....going back 8 years. Roll them bones boy
Youre old and look like shit. Nuff said. This is a virtual forum. "Negs" mean nothing. The actual reality is you look like complete shit. You take so many compounds and they go nowhere. You've been working out for how long? I hope you barely started. Because I know for a fact thats not decades worth of training.
Ostarine, what happened to you? You wanted a discussion Over this topic and you received some very valuable advice and viewpoints and just because you didn’t agree, you went on a spree attacking other members ? Take a deep breath and understand this is a forum and everyone has the liberty to post information from experience or sources. You took a stance on the topic and others opposed, that’s a healthy dynamic.
Hahahhaha old man is getting upset. Your time is up man. You're old as fuck and out of shape. I can tell why you're mad. I would be mad too if I took steroids and accumulated 0 mass, got bloated and was 30% bodyfat and to top it off youre bald lmao. I bet you also need cialis hahahahaha. Thats why you live on the forums because you have no actual life.
The problem with SARMs is they lose either selectivity as they dose goes up, real medical dosing for this stuff is very low. When they become non selective at the AR they have as much sides as any other oral and less effective. SARMs are for kids with broccoli haircuts and needle phobias.
I have been study SARMs since 2008, during my undergraduate, when they hit the bb scene as the next big thing. I have experienced and tried most SARMs. Having access to top quality SARMs I still always use Anavar, wonder why?
Come on Bud come back
- Where you hiding?!!
Seriously what the fuck is it with these haircuts nowadays and they all wear short shorts with high socks. Is it really social media ?
Do they wear the dangly earrings in both ears with the Silver cross on??!! LOL
Yeah man, I thought that was an east coast thing. That’s happening over by you as well?
@Ostarine went on a massive spree of pussy negging and masturbatory upvoting rn LOLOL
@press1
Upvote cuz it was funny
"Masturbatory upvoting" shit actually made me laugh. Never heard that one before lmao
Literally it was a 'thing' here during the 80's with Wham! doing it etc and Bros. LMAO Works a treat with a Mullet too
LOL press called it the "George Michael" look making a comeback LOL
'Broccoli haircuts and needle phobias' - LMFAO
Time to get Tiktok famous by sumo pulling on a deadlift bar with bumper plates LOLOL
Have you seen the 2" range of motion as the plates dangle right to the end of the bar with the obligatory Figure 8 straps so the bar hangs even lower in your hands? Lmao You just know EOD is sumo day.
I really thought I was the only one who noticed this but didn’t know how to articulate what I was actually perceiving. I almost quit the gym in the summer because of these tripods all over the gym with these kids doing these sumo dead lifts
Youtube is literally full of them bud - if you have the right genetics with your torso length, leg and arm length you can set up with your back in virtually an upright position so that all you have to do is a sumo push with your legs and bang you have a 7 plate deadlift. When asked to do it conventional style with feet shoulder width most of them cannot do 5 plates. You'll never see any of them benching anything half decent either. Think the idea is if you look the least like a weight lifter then it looks even more impressive in film LOL
If I ever open a gym, it will be a 30 and up.
this is spot on ^
RustyhookerReal talk ^^
Kinda feel bad for the kid, he is getting piled on. but he came on eroids talking about sarms vs steroids, you gotta understand your climate here. Average age is probably 35-40 here, lots of old school guys, not the place for SARMs.
Most of the time I get the "well you have not tried injectable YK-11", I am like okay. Chemically and structurally that is a DHT derivative, that is not a "sarm", look at the steroidal backbone, it is closer to a winstrol compound. So you gotta inject a drug with almost no safety data, in an application it was not meant for (injection) at dosages that are 5-20x what was used clinically to get the same results as something more studied.
You want human trials; masteron for breast cancer, primo for wasting diseases, anavar for aids, these all had to pass safety exams and have trials done to assess their impacts on different organs, and even these steroids have LIMITED data. So now enter SARMs, my question is why? only thing I can see... convenience, you can buy with moms credit card and pop a pill. Anyway I know I am preaching to the choir here Rust
@Ostarine Cheers for having the balls to come on here and start a discussion
RustyhookerYessir! Water so muddy that everything sounds like easy magic. Kinda like when first timers want oral only but dont see the down sides. If there was a 1 way does it all...surely we'd post it up.
Good discussion yes. Reminds me of the first set of pro-hormones that worked. But as laws changed it moved towards very unhealthy risk vs rewards.
You look like shit Lol
Don't care what others think Lol. I kind of assumed this forum was full of old ass dudes with a superiority complex who believe taking steroids somehow makes them different from others when in reality it doesn't fucking matter lmao. I inject test and its just another day to me. Funny how most of the guys on here are bloated as fuck holding so much water that you can't even see any muscle definition with a bald head and moon face. They take steroids just to look like shit lmao. The minority of guys on here actually have a good proportional physique. Most look like shit and totally out of proportion. Outside of these forums they have no life.
The last half of this comment lol. It's true
RustyhookerHe complimented you choosing to try and open up chat and of course....put on your diaper or man the fuck up kid.
Youre lucky I cant downvote for now
YOU need to put on your diapers you old bloated fuck. You take steroids for what? I guess trt at this point because based on your pictures theres 0 muscle mass
This is 2022 not 1990 lmao. Shit has changed. Theres more knowledge on peds then ever. New peds are coming out. The old heads on here are mad because most teenagers look better then them with less years of training. Times have changed. Kids can have a full head of hair and shredded physique with the knowledge and access to drugs nowadays. Get with the times bozos.
I'm very glad I won't even try this crap.
Cool
I categorize SARMS right next to “As seen on TV’ products. Do they work? Of course they do, as long as you strictly follow a well balance diet and training protocol. But guess what??? Your body would see gains even naturally if you follow a strict diet and protocol. SARMS are Snake oils sold by the smooth talking guy that assures you they will work as long as you follow his 3 page four hour workout plan. If I could follow those workouts and diets I would not even consider using any gear.
Tried SARMS, for me it was all hype with no benefits. Would rather just pin test and actually get gains than shill that snake oil. Thats why its always douche bags like that Dylan guy that push this stuff. No research just "I think, and I heard"
If you like it, more power to you but to me, most of them did absolutely nothing.
Dylan is actually a very smart and knowledgeable guy. Want know the REAL reason he promotes SARMS? Because he sells them on his website. It’s a money making thing. People want an alternative to steroids because steroids are illegal. That’s the true bottom line.