posted Tue, 09/24/2013 - 21:54
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Using HGH without insulin?
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There is a member here that says he would never use hgh without insulin, why is that?
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There is a member here that says he would never use hgh without insulin, why is that?
AnonInsulin drives nutrients to muscles to grow, initiates protien synthesis, uptakes amino acids, but inhibits Lipolysis and send glucose to adipocytes where glucose converts to glycerol and then unites with 3 fatty acids to make Triglycerides stuck on your belly. But it all depends on diet its not ganrateed ull get fat. HGH without insulin accelrates lipolysis cuz IGF-1 interrups insulin to store fat and forces body to use energy crom fats.
Why cuz your natural HGH is only secreted when Insulin is not present, in a fasting state or post work out. All these situation HGH tells your body to use fats, becuase supposly your out of glycogen. See your forcing your body to think your out of glycogen when u inject HGH. Due to the proper chain of events that happen so ur pituritary scerets somatotrphin to initiate what i stated above .
Lay terms HGH tricks ur body to start lipolysis
HGH is only secreted when insulin is at low levels. True. BUT we are injecting EXOGENOUS HGH so there is not point to have low insulin levels when on injectable HGH. not like your body is going to produce more hgh it's already got high levels due to external intake of hgh
AnonYes i agree. Maybe u miss understood my post i was only saying what and how ur body reacts in those situations.
I wouldn't necessarily say it Initiates protein synthesis, but it does reduce protein metabolism.
HGH causes your body to use fatty acids as primary energy source, so it pretty much prevents most of this
AnonControl of cellular intake of certain substances, most prominently glucose in muscle and adipose tissue (about two-thirds of body cells)
Increased glycogen synthesis – insulin forces storage of glucose in liver (and muscle) cells in the form of glycogen; lowered levels of insulin cause liver cells to convert glycogen to glucose and excrete it into the blood. This is the clinical action of insulin, which is directly useful in reducing high blood glucose levels as in diabetes.
Increased lipid synthesis – insulin forces fat cells to take in blood lipids, which are converted to triglycerides; lack of insulin causes the reverse.[clarification needed (see talk)]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
AnonLook it up insulin does initiate protien synthesis its in my anatomy book google it.
Yes exogenus HGH does stop fat storage.
But i was explAinin insulins responsibilities which are to inhibit lipolysis and send nutrients to muscle and fat cells.
yeah but the testosterone and hgh are pretty much the ones doing most of the protein synthesis. But yeah you are right. I think insulin is more effective at preventing protein metabolism (using protein for energy, instead of amino acids to construct muscle) insulin is one of the most anticatabolic hormones I could possibly think of
It's very simple. IGF levels rise when blood sugar is low. HGH increases blood glucose levels. Insulin brings them down.
Bottom line igf will be higher when insulin and hgh are combined. There are other benefits as well, but this is one of the main reasons.
As the both complement each other. GH in large doses can make you Insulin Resistant although many people have provided differing anecdotal views on this. However, one thing is clear in that using them both together does amplify the gains considerably - but what also needs to be taken in to account is the danger of Insulin if you are not in tune with your body and dont respect it.
Worth it for a few more lbs of muscle?....Guess can leave that with you.
AtlasStonesisn't this where the HGH gut comes from? I'd rather not touch it. Unless in a very very bare minimum dose.
Interesting area - many ppl swear on it being from IGF [makes sense] and many say its water and temporary. There are a number of Pro BB who had HUGE bellies in the 90s and last decade who have now retired....and their bellies seem to have gone back in size significantly. Whilst intestinal growth from IGF has been well documented - it doesnt explain how many people seem to have reverted the size. Whether this was intestinal growth + Water and the water simply goes and the Int growth was not as significant isup for debate. But what you need to bare in mind is that you need to be taking HIGH doses of GH for long periods to experience this.
arguably injectable IGF causes this, or ultradoses of hgh+insulin combination has a rep for causing this yes.
But that is when abused. It's kind of a genetic thing too. Also guys who take high dose hgh and insulin are probably consuming 700g protein so there is a huge amount of food digesting inside the stomach which means the stomach may protrude out. Again has to do with "abuse"
No it is true it does make you insulin resistant. This is a good thing. What is nice about HGH is it makes your cells insulin resistant (fat cells become insulin resistant) so you can run HGH and insulin and the storage of glucose in fat cells will be minimal to none.
Agree and its this that makes.GH plus Insulin an extraordinary combination for size and strength.
AnonNo insulin resistance is a term used when you have diabetes 2,the word your thinking of is" Insulin sensitive"making your body react better to insulin with its jobs of protien synthesis and send nutrient to the myocytes(muscles).
No it is not ONLY used in people who have type 2.
No I'm thinking of INSULIN RESISTANCE. Because HGH causes fat cells to be insulin resistant!!!
AnonOo ok i see what ur saying now, i was thinking insulin sensitivity cuz its make u grow more, but you were talking bout how HGH inhibits its delivery to fat and muscle cells.
But if u inject insulin exogenus isnt that still potentiaL of fat storage?
AtlasStonesbtw you should go back to your dumbass injection page lmao
AnonManiga i threw knowledge to ur page as well as J223 throw his knowledge
You come to a forum asking a question and spit at an educated person face!
AtlasStonesYou can't even spell correctly how am I supposed to take your "knowledge" seriously, and your injection page was full of bs too.
AnonMyniga im on a iPhone either learn what i give u or go pay for it and get the same info i gave u. Check out and see if anything i said was wrong punk!!
Google that shit and go to well referenced sites.
Go to pubmed and get the same explaination.. Come at me with proof that im wrong i dare ya nigga.
AtlasStonesstfu, you shouldn't even be touching roids let alone hgh or insulin.
AnonWho says i was punk, i know all this cuz i g to school for medicine.
This niga....
AtlasStonesCool story bro
Everyone on this forum already knows you are already using 19-nors and still look the way you do.
AnonU have low self esteem.. I bet i cop mo hoes than you hahaha loser peace
Something i learn muscle dont garantee pussy, game does and a face.
Of course. You cannot just eat ice cream and pie and think you will be okay cause you are on HGH lol. Insulin must be part of a VERY STRICT perfectly constructed diet to be effective.
AtlasStonesGuess I will start researching some insulin usage. It is 100% safe at very small dosages right?
mmmm I don't really wanna say anything I don't know your background, stats, experience etc. I'd suggest you do more reading. It's dangerous if you do not know what you are doing.
My previous comments were only meant to answer questions, not persuade someone to use
AtlasStonesI have grrrl to mentor me about insulin use ;)