posted Mon, 12/03/2012 - 21:59
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To T4 or not to T4??!!??
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Hey wise brothers (and sisters) of eroids - I'm getting some mixed info on using T4 with hgh. Hoping you might be able to share some experience.
Let's say someone was running HGH at 4 i.u. per day for approx a year. The 'old school' approach seems to be that T4 is critical for optimal efficiency of the HGH.
However, I'm hearing more recent info, and a lot of anecdotal info that says T4 is not necessary unless you have low thyroid. I'm loathe to take thyroid meds period - and generally like to take as few compounds as possible.
What say you? T4 necessary, or no?
I understand that T4 will cut bodyfat - but it does that with or without HGH - I'm trying to determine if there is a compelling reason to add this into the mix.
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Get a thyroid panel done after doing a dose of 3IU's or more for several weeks to a couple months. If your T4 is low...think about supplementing. Typically it seems that if you are younger and typically lean with a good diet and exercise program, then your thyroid is perfectly healthy, GH or not. I have T4 on hand, but I never took it...YET. Don't need it, but getting a panel done in a week, so we'll see again!
Nice - good advice!
southernmuscle615dont start adding all these exogenous hormones without first getting your base levels tested..if your taking hgh and your levels are fine..dont mess with it..dont try and fix whats not broken..and for sure dont want to fuck with your endocrine system
Amen - thanks!
You don't need the t4 unless your running high doses of growth.
from my personal experience I figured I needed t4 when I was on growth a few months ago. Well it wasn't necessary and it was doing more harm than good. I felt like shit. I posted about what I was doing on here and was told to stop it. So I did. T4 is a very strong compound and can fuck your thyroid up forever. So stay away from it.
Thanks for sharing your experience, bro - that's exactly what I was concerned about -
AnonTypically small doses of gh do not suppress the thyroid. Whether this applies to you or not is going to really depend on your body. My advice would be to spend the money to have thyroid leves checked before you start messing with it. Too much neg feedback, especially when not needed, can cause damage. It's worth the cost to know with certainty, IMO
Absolutely - live in the middle of bumf**ck so it's not as easy to get bloodwork done ... but looks like a road trip may be in order. Thanks!
AnonThat sux bro. How far is the nearest lab corp?
Well, I just searched using some different parameters and lo and behold, there is a Quest - so I'm off to get bloodwork!
AnonHaha! Good deal!