posted Thu, 01/12/2012 - 04:01
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Let's put this Kigtropin Rumor to Rest!!!
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Let's Get to the bottom of This! Are the stamped versions over-dosed and the printed versions under-dosed? Can those who have used the Printed version comment on it? Or even better....compare it to the stamped version? Can anyone Provide a Lab Test for either version of Kigtropin? I have both versions from EHP, but have not used them yet and would like to know what I am shooting into my body. I am sure there are a lot of us here that are curious and would like to resolve this rumor!!
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i have heard that guys got tested from the same batch number and some levels were elevated and some weren't i think its pretty hit and miss i did two kits and thought i had some results from it but i was running test at the same time personally i think there are better options out there.
Hello got some taitropin !
I run it along 4 ui for two week and i got more rip,
with all diet and every work out.
I have the bacht 2011020202 / 2011 02 02
Can we tell me your expérience with Taitropin ?
I just want to know if its a good investment or not !
I have some feeling but i don't know if its in my head or not.
Can you give me your comments ?
Best regards
Trixx2500
tread-mHave not used it yet but looking for any results at all in two weeks is not possible. Hgh is not like gear in that it is a long term process in the body and takes many weeks to begin to notice any actual results and realistically look to the 4 month mark for something outside the norm. When you notice your hair is growing like crazy and you have to trim your nails twice a week and they are still longer than you like, skin smoother etc. The one early benefit that might be realized is that hgh can cause a higher possible balance to be made in the hpga and that allows your body to capitalize on a higher rate of testosterone given the need for balance. As to fat loss and those sort of things settle in and get real patient brother. Often people think they are getting results early and stop to realize they are probably eating better, working out better etc and if they had done that without hgh they would be responding. Some placebo effect can occur for newer users and placebo even though it is though to be fake is. A very real thing. In other words, I don't care what caused the results as long as they come! Lol. So eat good, sleep good, train hard and let it work. You have to be running test during the blast periods above 2 iu's to get full benefit and certainly no need to exceed 3 iu's without test. You can continue cruising the hgh at 2 iu's between cycles in order to maximize effect on your next cycle when you ramp up usage. You can test your hgh if on test pretty easy after a couple months of use by jumping your iu's from say 3 to 5 in one day and run it a couple days. The 2 iu jump should give most people quick cts signs. Once confirmed drop back to your normal dose. Let us know how it does, I plan on ordering some myself and look forward to your results.
heres what some of you should do who think maybe there is some question about whether or not these kigtropins are legit...buy some and post up your labs..go have a GH Blood Serum test and an IGF-1 test done and post the lab report..it's one thing to say i'm getting carpal tunnel or my hands are numb its another thing when you post a lab report and your GH Blood Serum level has a range of 0.0 to 2.9 and yours is 4.0 or something higher and your IGF-1 level is in the 600's and normal is 220...then you can say this product is 100% legit....until then all this chatter is just that chatter...it's not sponsor bashing guys it's common sense...alot of these sponsors go thru re-sellers they don't deal direct with the manufacturing plants so they are at the mercy of who is supplying them
jasonham i the only one confused as to witch they have? mine is on box in dark ink guessing printed. would think stamped would mean actually pressed into carton but from pics that doesnt look true. pics show both but dont tell witch is witch. this isnt real science and not saying its safe but pinned 10 iu last night to see if i would get sides. none. last time i ran it took over a mounth to develop sides but definatly got em(3iu) been on 3iu for 3weeks (ehp kigs) thought the 10iu jump would bring em on. guess time will tell stating to wonder. under living larges gear pics mine look like one on left
What is the Batch No (located on box and vial)? I have been experimenting with the Printed version from EHP (batch no 20110801-03) 2 days ago I took 10iu and felt nothing and Yesterday I took 15iu and again.....NOTHING! I have been running EHPs Taitropin for 6 weeks with great results. I am really worried that I might have $$$$ worth of bunk Kigtropin sitting in my fridge! I will continue to Test. BTW I tried 5iu of the Stamped version and I certainly felt them! all the sides and indications of good gh were there.
270strengthToronto what up, I'm a crossfiter myself bro, anyway I have some of those stamped kigs,but I need some more, was looking at taitropin but I'm undecided,glad u are having good results with them,I might give em a try,would u recommend them??
Hey 270 I have been running EHP's Taitropin for almost 7 weeks. So far so good. It has been my benchmark to "test" against the Stamped and Printed Kigs that I have also received from EHP. I would say they are g2g, I have been virtually eating anything and everything and have maintained a six pack, cts and great sleep. I would recommend it!
270strengthThanks bro I'm Gona give em a try, how much are you running,
jasonhbatch no 20110715 same on vial. do ya know what i have stamped or printed? how long ago did ya buy the taitropin? thinking all the hgh is made by same people and then packaged differently may be wrong but if my kigs are fake think i should find a different source no reason to get burned twice
Is this the batch # 20110715 on the Taitropin or Kigs because that was the same batch # for my Kigs....is that normal??
Kigs for sure as mine is from that batch. Couldnt say about Tai though.
if you got those ones then its the stamped verision. i assume you got them around november thats when they were around. and from what i was told those are the best ones out there. i have the same ones bought them in november
jasonhthanx for the response, i got em right after christmas
no stamp on bottles its print buts that how they been for awhile. print on bottle stamp on box. but you said right after xmas that makes me nervouse because i was told from other forums that for that batch you needed them before xmas. after the 1st it was new version in old stamp box. maybe thats why your not getting the effects.
270strengthI have the same batch also, got them around Christmas, boxes have stamps, but bottles don't have stamp, what do yours look like, have started running them yet?
jasonhyea box stamped bottles printed.been running 3iu have felt no sides but it takes awhile for them to come on for me. bumped up to 10 to see if that will bring em on but nothing yet
From all of the posts i am seeing on Boards where members are posting their labs the consensus isn't good....All of the latest batches of Kigs that are coming around including the stamped ones with the stamped boxes, and the stamped ones with the printed boxes are junk....here is a link to some labs that were posted by a member of Professional Muscle after running his Kigtropins I.V. So if you still doubt there isn't any GH in these then there is something wrong with you because if you I.V. GH straight into a vein and then have a blood serum test done and your GH Blood Serum is in the low Normal range than there is no way you have legit GH.....heres the link to the test http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/sponsors/50174d1326...
it takes more than one person to form a consensus.
just sayin.
Also, it's funny that on a site with 500 ads for gear suppliers, that a sponsor would post a "bad test" for kigs.
Yep thats right it does...there are several test reports on that forum relating to the kigtropins and all of them say they are junk...there is one test report from a guy on another forum - outlawmuscle saying his are junk and these guys all bought them from different sources and then theres my experience and i bought mine from ehealthpill....so you have a min of 5 different people who all purchased their kigtropins from 5 different sources and all of them are saying they are junk....how many bad reviews from different sources does it take before you have to ask is this product safe?? I could care less if you buy it or not i just want people to know that right now your flipping a coin with Kigtropins
well Im on them right now and mine are legit, so I win.
I've only been taking Kigs(Printed Version) for a little over six weeks. but I can for sure tell when I tried dosing to high to quick. Started at 2iu ed not really any sides except for headaches and really tired daily think that quit after around a week or so. Well then I decided after two weeks to jump right to 3iu ed. That wasn't a good idea man did I feel like crap for over a week sore knees,elbows, As of now I ended up moving up to 3.5iu ed then to 4iu ed a week later trying to get to 5iu ed. But def not going to be moving up again for at least a month. Joints say no lol. AS for sides I have been noticing now at 4iu sore joints,numb hands sometimes,throbbing pain in elbow areas woke me up a few times, dreams seem so real im not sure if im sleeping thats every night.Feel very ready for work at 0430 everyday now so thats good. I guess that is kind of like a review but anyway. So if this stuff is under dosed or bunk are these sides also bunk..I think the guy from that forum is the bunk one or maybe the whole site which ever..
when did you order?
are the "Printed" Version of Kigs that you have been using Batch No:20110801-03 Exp. Date:20130701?
same batch I have
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I will have to look tonight but im pretty sure the exp date is the same or close.UPDATE: yes they are the same
I just bought 2 kigs last night and u guys are getting me really worried. Wtf is going on :S
AnonIf you read the thread on the other board it is bs... the guy says he can look at the vial and tell it is under dosed.. if you are unhappy with your product the two sources here are very good and will work something out with you if you don't want it..
This is true. I read the thread too and that gh15 guy basically just looked at the printed vial and said "hmmm, looks like 2ius in there". He then proceeded to post that "the results are in" and proclaimed that the printed kigs are all bunk.
Ridiculous.
AnonI feel like this is a modern day version of the Emperor's New Clothes
Ok thanks for the reply. I feel better now.
That same thread also has people stating that they are now seeing repacks, with "good" dates on the outside and vials inside stamped differently.
AnonI d like to know what their sources are ..the same thread also talks about how mr gh can visibly see that the vials are under dosed.. the thread just doesn't have any credibility at all at this point.
You are noticing this now? Please go back to the original thread where the link was posted and look at my post...
I think that pretty much summed up everything I had to say about the whole website and especially that particular thread, lol.
AnonNo I am not JUST noticing now, I am taking the time to comment NOW. I ve been too busy pulling posts of alarmists screaming FAKEs and SCAMs in threads that they have no business posting . ;-p
Thats our grrrl, always busy working. You are probably looking for the thread now in the hopes that I posted some extensive scientific explanation or something, but you just might be (pleasantly?) surprised.
In any case, I went through like the first page of that thread and all I could think about was "where the FUCK have I landed?"
Anonno actually I read your post last night .. it is in the thread I had to threaten to shut down because it was turning into a name calling match ... oh yes, I landed there in the thread yesterday evening after the alarmist started blowing up the review page.. I even had to put someone in the time out box... it was like going down the rabbit hole...
Lol, I completely missed all of the fun. Maybe I'll swing by now as my only contribution to that thread so far was posting a link to a funny-ass picture.
Ahh eroids, you never fail to entertain me (only that 1 night...not cool). Where are the other mods, I bet they could take some work off your hands.
Anonwell lets see.. Oh damn, I am LOOKING right at Gothic.. and roid was busy this morning while I was snoozing.. I saw that pic too.. ;-)
I see...But goth never does much other than open some crazy threads and scare people with his vascularity, lol...
Has anyone taken the "printed" version and displayed good results? Over at the GetBigger Forum, They are saying now saying that some Printed and Stamped Kigs is nothing more than sugar water? They are claiming that it is a big conspiracy, and the manufacturer has been mixing legit vials with bunk vials, so there is no way to tell which kits are good and bad?
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tread-mFor yourself personally you would test igf-1 whille not using kigs but while using test. Then begin the kigs ramping it up 1 iu a week for about 4 weeks and then test again using the same amount of testosterone as in the previous test.
Good idea Tread I'm 3 weeks in on a cycle and I'm on kigs(stamped)at 5iu so what I can do is this I'll get a igf-1 test next week then switch to printed kigs and retest in 1 month. Hopefully that will end all speculation.
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Wouldn't bother bro, you'd have to test for the exact 191 amino acid sequence. Would probably cost you quite a bit.
What balkan products are you having tested? In my experience everything I have taken from them was very good.
@ tread: I disagree with a simple IGF-1 test, especially when on AAS simultaneously. Why take anything that would tamper the readings?
Depends man, technically it would be sufficient to get IGF-1 levels and GH levels checked out, but without having taken any other substances.
what about this scenario:
I'm currently on 1gm/enanthate ew plus 5iu kigs ed. What if I stopped the kigs, then got my GH, IGF, etc.. levels checked to get a baseline, while ONLY on test. Then I go back on the kigs and get my levels checked again. Would that be a fair comparison?
The problem is that you don't know how far the test influences the IGF-1 levels, and if it will reach a maximum at one point.
Because when you get a baseline first and then another test 1 month later, how do you know the test didn't gradually cause this difference?
If you want to know 100% for sure you need this to be controlled, without other variables that could potentially influence the results.