First off you gotta take the brands out, its againts the rules.

But damn ive explained this to like 3 people recenty, so im just gonna copy and paste alot of what I told my other friends. Your now like the 4th whos used multiple brands and scored low both times. One friend has used like 5+ brands and the only time he ever got close to 300 was running 10ius of the first brand of gh you mentioned. I was running 5ius at time and pulled a 450, and all the rest of us were getttng back 500s, 450+s etc etc

Youre correct, your liver is just not producing igf-1 like most peoples would. HGH was invented for kids with GHD, short kids who didnt have the igf-1 levels (among some other growth factors but maily igf-1) to grow tall. So naturally they came up with a bioidendical version of our bodys hgh the 191aa molecule and thats given to kids to replace what they are not making naturally and waalaa, they grow tall (and what we take for performance enhancement). But out of ever so many kids this doesnt work, their livers just would not produce igf-1 to the levels needed despite the dose given, much higher doses then the regular kids. So doctors and drug companies said hmm wtf can we do, well igf-1 is what actually makes the kids grow, growth hormone in its normal form does nothing for growth, its a prodrug, or precurser to igf-1, once it travels to the liver it tells it to produce igf-1 and ig-1 is all that matters in this process of growth. So a company called ipsen said well shit, we can just cut out precurser (the GH) , as its not needed for this process of getting these short kids to grow at all, its just a precurser for the actual drug that makes the kids grow. So Ispen produced a drug called Increlex, bioidendical igf-1. This isnt DES, or LR3, its the same exact stuff our livers produce naturally. So they fixed the problem, all the kids whos livers just would not produce the high igf-1 numbers would no longer have to worry as they now have bioidendical igf-1 to give to those kids and they to could now grow tall and no get screwed by their livers that were not cooperating.

We had a guy who ran 1 brand of pharm grade and do bloods once a week, on like 4-5ius pulling igfs around the 230s give or take 20 points, he did this for 4 weeks. Then he ran another brand of pharm grade, same exact outcome, each week his igf-1 levels were within like 10-15 points of the other brand he tested first.

But in all honesty your numbers arent that bad at all, 187 on 1.5ius of serostim, witha 60% absortion rate so only .72ius actually make it to the liver. And 212 on 3ius of the other brand, On that brand im around 450ish on 5ius, so id put you somwhere around 300 give or take 30 points maybe on 3ius. The other people with this issues, there results were way worse, 212 on 5ius of your second brand, a 292 on 10ius of your first brand, another 222 on the first brand youre talking about.

Despite all this after taking with all them I asked them how their results had been and they all said great, ive seen progress pics of some of these guys since starting it and theyve really transformed. So how have your results have been. Remember, Gh is not magic at all like people make it out to be. But it can do some great things.

Do you know your baseline?