posted Fri, 06/14/2013 - 20:42
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+ 4 How much HGH is required to GET BIG
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With insulin of course (I still don't understand why anyone would run hgh without slin)
what would be the lowest amount you can run and still get big results?
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Thanks for the response I appreciate it. I'm very aware of all of HGH sides believe me I've done my hw lol. I'm currently taking 0.4mg prami per night so that's not an issue.
I think 3iu is a good number to start off
Thanks again +1
Okay I caved in and purchased some HGH. 300iu synertropin - great deal by the way. (sorry empee my financial aid hasn't come in yet!)
was thinking about starting 3iu per day. The kits are 150iu 10 vials 15iu per vial. So I was thinking starting at 3iu in the morning each day 7 days a week. Does this sound good way to get started
Goodluck bro =)
hyges on the way and might have serostims in the near future =]
Hey bro sent you a fr.wanted to know what source your using to get your GH thanx
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Fr request sent J223 and dak979 curious of which source ur buying from and what discount ur getting for bulk orders.
Update:
Okay I decided fuck low doses I'm going to go straight for the gold. No dicking around with 2,3,4 IU doses. I'm just going to go all out 6-8iu's HGH 7 days a week plus 6-12iu slin per meal.
How much will I need to get huge as a truck? Like will it take 6 months to see results or will I pile on mass fucking quick? I need to know cause I'm debating on buying 2000iu of HGH but I think 1000-1200 will be enough to get me started right? The HGH will be rips or hyge brown tops or synertropin.
WithdrawlYou'll start gaining right away, trust me. That's a lot of slin bro. What kind will you be using? Even the fast acting insulins have an active life of around 4 hours so you wouldn't want to shoot it every meal in my opinion, but, I don't have any experience trying it that way so I could be wrong. The strongest hgh seems to be rips. I love the Vips I'm using though. When I switched to Rips I felt very tired and gained a LOT of water weight. It was like I increased my daily dosage, but I didn't, I just switched brands. Not sure if that means Rips are stronger or not but out of the HGH brands you listed, I'd go with the Rips.
Well that's more of an average. Likely I'd do large meals 12 or 14iu and a couple meals with less (not actually shoot every single meal). I'd use log and humulin. I'd work my way up to 60. Of course I'd never use more than I can handle.
Yea rips are known to be slightly overdosed. That's why I don't believe that 3iu pharma will beat 8iu Rips
This thread is alive again ^^ For what it's worth, I'll give u my opinion. Instead of 8IUs of "rips or hyge brown tops or synertropin", run 3IUs of pharma HGH along with slin and AAS. Ill cut my balls off if you don't end up a monster. The generics give ugly sides starting at 4-5IU, like extreme water retention with Rips, so u'll suffer at high dosages, with pain in all joints etc, wont lift like u should. Do it like the f'in beasts do it, I've seen a lot of them believe me. I have a feeling u won't listen to me, but I would've felt bad if I didn't write this post before u buy GH lol, especially after all our discussion in this thread. Good luck brah, looking forward to ur progress. Hit me up if u need anything!
Alright dak, I appreciate your words. I will STRONGLY consider your proposition.
I think if I can run pharma at 4-5iu per day I'd be able to get the result's I'm looking for. A year ago I had a source where I could get Eli Lilly 24mg Humatrope (72iu) pens for $290 a kit. Yeah It was a steal. But prices like that are just about impossible now. Well hopefully I can find some decent priced pharma and I'd definitely consider it. But I'd have to run 4-5iu at least then I'd be confident in doing it.
But the labs on riptropin don't lie. The HGH serum and igf levels on rips are so high that they are definitely going to give impressive results. If I have to live with water retention side effects and numb hands, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make considering I don't have a doctor's salary. But I was also thinking of getting started off with rips then when I get out of school and actually have a high paying salary then I can make the switch to pharma. It would give me something to look forward to, you know. I'll have the rest of my life to use fancy pharma HGH but since I'm still in my 20's why not get the most bang for my buck.
Damn, 290$! Should have stocked for years lol. I'm using Norditropin atm, after looking around I found a really good deal price wise relative to all other sources. Bought in bulk. Very affordable and IMO worth the extra $$. U say 4-5IUs of pharma, and at the start 6-8IUs of generics. I'd say more like 3-4IUs of pharma for that equivalence. But I see ur point, no matter how u turn it, u will be paying more for pharma, even though u get what u pay for. Whatever u do keep us updated bud, love to see people adding mass and blowing up lol
Dak is Jintropin considered pharma? If so I can get that pretty cheap
Real Jintropin is Chinese Pharma Grade. But, GenSci was heavily penalized few years ago and stopped exporting Jintropin. So all the Jintropin u see know from sources is not the real chinese pharmagrade one. Whoever used Jins back in 2007 for example knows that they're the shit and best bang for ur buck. But stay away from them now, unless u live in China.
I read about the US issues about Gensci exporting jintropin and yes that is true they stopped importing to US. But guess what it's still available in China and my source gets it from a chinese reseller. It's funny the way AAS works.
But same shit happens with any prescription drugs. Think about Jelfa. Their Omnadren sustanon amps are extremely controlled in Poland but us steroid users still get our hands on it.
All it takes is one crooked (legit pharmaceutical drug) distributor in China and these Jintropin's land in our hands. Yes Gensci has tightened up on exporting but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get. So yea I can get the real stuff
Well then it all goes down to how much u trust ur source. The real stuff is really good, that's all i can help with!
Hehe alright I'll see what I can do. I'm not ruling out pharma just yet! Going to continue to look around. Man I used to be able to get serostims for 400 a kit, but that was also a year ago! lol I should have done it
Shit whats with the prices, u need to enlighten me about ur sources!!
Well let's just say I know many people, was good friends with a distributor. I used to be in the loop haha, I'll leave it at that. But the DEA has made it pretty impossible these days to get pharmaceuticals manufactured in US. Thats why serostims are 750+ because it's not as easy to get. But yea not eroids sources. It's all about who you know. But yea I haven't spoke to those people in a while, I think I should see if they are still around.
There is a ton of great growth sources right now. Hyges, rips, novos, VIPs are all putting out great serum results . The sides are more than manageable. I'm running six iu and it has not affected my lifts in a negative way at all. I'm a Lil bloated , hands and feet are swollen and my hands are numb texting this. But nothing horrible. There is no way in hell I could afford to run pharma grade . To be honest I don't plan on it either. As long as we have decent generic sources I would take advantage of them. Pharma grade would be amazing , but with the cost of food, aas, slin, pins, gym I mean ..'... No pharma grade in this guys future ! Lol
WeatherwedI never buy hgh in bulk.. ill spread a large order out over a month or so and use multiple sources. It's a lot of cash to put on one horse.
Even at 10iu+ a day hgh wont make you a mass monster in a few months. The real factor will be the combination of hgh, aas, and slin. Mix all three- and I think you'll find your expectation for growth are reasonably met.
lol you can bet 2-3g's of AAS will be in there along with 60+iu slin per day. HGH is the last piece of my puzzle!
bulk makes sense to me. I can't justify spending $2 per IU that's rediculous
Dont forget your T4 Brother... LOL
WeatherwedOne day my buddy gave me some sh-t about juicing. Normally I would respond with my rationale for using. Instead I just laughed and put my headphones on. He wouldn't understand- what it means to want something so bad that you'll do whatever it takes to get it. It sounds like you do. Ill be waiting for your progress and bulk hgh porn shots. GL!
sounds like you know where I'm coming from then. Yes stay tuned. I'm working all summer so I can buy my truckloads of HGH kits. I'll be sure to post pics haha
Great minds think alike!
UFOLittle late to this thread but heres my input. Ive been on GH for 6 months now, started at 3iu and ramped up to 5iu within the first month so Ive been at 5iu for 5 months. Been on RIPS then hyges. Compared to AAS growth is weak in terms of muscle building. I havnt seen any super drastic gains that I would have without the gh. The main benefit is absolutely the fat loss. I stay shredded all the time, regardless of my cheat meals and even while on deca cycles. Now that Im running cutters its even more noticable. Amazing in terms of keeping fat off your body and staying vascular. I have also noticed my shoulders are a little bit broader than they were, hopefully that is a permanent gain. Never used it with slin though. Its a lot of $ for not a ton of gains, so if you are on a tight budget you might want to consider peptides instead. My 2 cents
You can't say growth is weak in terms of gains because u didn't run at a high enough dose to make gains. At the right dose with or without slin u will see gains. The main benefit at 5iu is fatloss, try 8iu+ and the main benefit is hyperplasia. Wether that's worth the price or not depends on how much u strive to be a bodybuilder.
UFOTruth and im also using Chinese GH, nothing like American shit. But I def cannot afford 8iu and just dont care that much since I am doing this as a lifestyle choice, not competition. Can you elaborate on the hyperplasia?
Dak got u covered bro. And that's where the synergy of the two come from. Anyway if u do it for health reasons i see no need to go higher then 4iu.
Hyperplasia is the creation of new cells versus hypertrophy which is making ur own muscle cells grow
Interesting! I learned something new today. So what's it take to get this 'hypertrophy' lol
Hypertrophy is what u have been doing all along since u started bodybuilding bro lol.
so what you are saying is AAS/insulin are responsible for hypertrophy and HGH hyperplasia? Sorry If that sounds like a dumb question this is pretty new to me.
U know when they say 4-6 reps for strength, 6-12 reps for size? By size they mean Hypertrophy. Training and eating a good diet is responsible for hypertrophy. AAS with all its anabolic characteristics are hypertrophy accelerators.
So basically yes is the answer to ur question
UFOThank you. Shit, ur telling me I need to hit 8iu per day to get hyperplasia going? Cuz I fucking will hit 8iu lol
WithdrawlI have a friend who just missed his pro card last year but should get it this year. He's a freak. 5iu of Rips gave him DRASTIC changes over a one year period. All his muscles got bigger, even ones he doesn't train like his neck and jaw. He just recently upped it to 6iu. So I don't think it's necessary to go as high as 8iu to see hyperplasia. Although, the higher you go the more you'll see I'm sure, BUT, 5iu should still give you very nice results. I'm up to 5iu right now and I'm growing so much it's crazy. I've only been on for about 5 weeks though so I haven't seen the hyperplasia yet. I was told by a guy one here who's giant that if you're looking for the most hyperplasia, go as high as you can afford. I guess my point is, if you can afford going high like 8iu, then by all means do it. But if you can't afford that much, I really believe you'll still see major results from 4 or 5iu over time, as long as you're hgh is good.
I dont know your friend, but just because he said he used 5iu doesn't mean it's true. 5iu fda gh you will see good muscle gains but rips...i highly doubt you'll see anything more then fat loss
Another thing to consider is age. A 40 year old will see way more results from 5iu then someone in their 20s.
Does this hyperplasia occur only with the addition of Slin?
No, but it is further promoted with slin in there.
Its also a slow and long process. Not just dosage related. It does this through elevated IGF levels over time if Im not mistaken. With Chinese ull probably need more than 8 lol
Glad to hear your thoughts. Pretty cool that low dose like 3iu is giving you good fatloss benefits.
I just personally think with the amount of money HGH is why not max out benefits? Anyways glad to hear low dose works for you. Yes I been using peptides with good effects actually. I just can't get fat.
He went to 5IU in the FIRST month ^^
oh 5iu, nvm I see haha I read too fast and thought he said 3iu for 5 month durr durr me lol
so 5iu with good fatloss and broader shoulders without slin, not bad.
Yup not bad, other than the 66% increase in cost
UFOYea, too expensive if you ask me. I save a little by doing 5 on 2 off so a kit last me about a month. I prob wont run GH for a while again but hell I still have 5 more kits already...The fat loss is pretty awesome though
Ur first post totally agrees with the advice I gave to the OP down there. Thanks for sharing ur experience, +1
UFOGlad to, thanks
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