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+ 4 How much HGH is required to GET BIG

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With insulin of course (I still don't understand why anyone would run hgh without slin)
what would be the lowest amount you can run and still get big results?

j223's picture

Thanks for the response I appreciate it. I'm very aware of all of HGH sides believe me I've done my hw lol. I'm currently taking 0.4mg prami per night so that's not an issue.
I think 3iu is a good number to start off

Thanks again +1

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Okay I caved in and purchased some HGH. 300iu synertropin - great deal by the way. (sorry empee my financial aid hasn't come in yet!)

was thinking about starting 3iu per day. The kits are 150iu 10 vials 15iu per vial. So I was thinking starting at 3iu in the morning each day 7 days a week. Does this sound good way to get started

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Goodluck bro =)

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hyges on the way and might have serostims in the near future =]

GETBIG1988's picture

Hey bro sent you a fr.wanted to know what source your using to get your GH thanx

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accepted

2500hd's picture

Fr request sent J223 and dak979 curious of which source ur buying from and what discount ur getting for bulk orders.

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Update:
Okay I decided fuck low doses I'm going to go straight for the gold. No dicking around with 2,3,4 IU doses. I'm just going to go all out 6-8iu's HGH 7 days a week plus 6-12iu slin per meal.
How much will I need to get huge as a truck? Like will it take 6 months to see results or will I pile on mass fucking quick? I need to know cause I'm debating on buying 2000iu of HGH but I think 1000-1200 will be enough to get me started right? The HGH will be rips or hyge brown tops or synertropin.

j223's picture

Well that's more of an average. Likely I'd do large meals 12 or 14iu and a couple meals with less (not actually shoot every single meal). I'd use log and humulin. I'd work my way up to 60. Of course I'd never use more than I can handle.
Yea rips are known to be slightly overdosed. That's why I don't believe that 3iu pharma will beat 8iu Rips

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This thread is alive again ^^ For what it's worth, I'll give u my opinion. Instead of 8IUs of "rips or hyge brown tops or synertropin", run 3IUs of pharma HGH along with slin and AAS. Ill cut my balls off if you don't end up a monster. The generics give ugly sides starting at 4-5IU, like extreme water retention with Rips, so u'll suffer at high dosages, with pain in all joints etc, wont lift like u should. Do it like the f'in beasts do it, I've seen a lot of them believe me. I have a feeling u won't listen to me, but I would've felt bad if I didn't write this post before u buy GH lol, especially after all our discussion in this thread. Good luck brah, looking forward to ur progress. Hit me up if u need anything!

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Alright dak, I appreciate your words. I will STRONGLY consider your proposition.
I think if I can run pharma at 4-5iu per day I'd be able to get the result's I'm looking for. A year ago I had a source where I could get Eli Lilly 24mg Humatrope (72iu) pens for $290 a kit. Yeah It was a steal. But prices like that are just about impossible now. Well hopefully I can find some decent priced pharma and I'd definitely consider it. But I'd have to run 4-5iu at least then I'd be confident in doing it.

But the labs on riptropin don't lie. The HGH serum and igf levels on rips are so high that they are definitely going to give impressive results. If I have to live with water retention side effects and numb hands, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make considering I don't have a doctor's salary. But I was also thinking of getting started off with rips then when I get out of school and actually have a high paying salary then I can make the switch to pharma. It would give me something to look forward to, you know. I'll have the rest of my life to use fancy pharma HGH but since I'm still in my 20's why not get the most bang for my buck.

dak979's picture

Damn, 290$! Should have stocked for years lol. I'm using Norditropin atm, after looking around I found a really good deal price wise relative to all other sources. Bought in bulk. Very affordable and IMO worth the extra $$. U say 4-5IUs of pharma, and at the start 6-8IUs of generics. I'd say more like 3-4IUs of pharma for that equivalence. But I see ur point, no matter how u turn it, u will be paying more for pharma, even though u get what u pay for. Whatever u do keep us updated bud, love to see people adding mass and blowing up lol

j223's picture

Dak is Jintropin considered pharma? If so I can get that pretty cheap

dak979's picture

Real Jintropin is Chinese Pharma Grade. But, GenSci was heavily penalized few years ago and stopped exporting Jintropin. So all the Jintropin u see know from sources is not the real chinese pharmagrade one. Whoever used Jins back in 2007 for example knows that they're the shit and best bang for ur buck. But stay away from them now, unless u live in China.

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I read about the US issues about Gensci exporting jintropin and yes that is true they stopped importing to US. But guess what it's still available in China and my source gets it from a chinese reseller. It's funny the way AAS works.

But same shit happens with any prescription drugs. Think about Jelfa. Their Omnadren sustanon amps are extremely controlled in Poland but us steroid users still get our hands on it.

All it takes is one crooked (legit pharmaceutical drug) distributor in China and these Jintropin's land in our hands. Yes Gensci has tightened up on exporting but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get. So yea I can get the real stuff

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Well then it all goes down to how much u trust ur source. The real stuff is really good, that's all i can help with!

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Hehe alright I'll see what I can do. I'm not ruling out pharma just yet! Going to continue to look around. Man I used to be able to get serostims for 400 a kit, but that was also a year ago! lol I should have done it

dak979's picture

Shit whats with the prices, u need to enlighten me about ur sources!!

j223's picture

Well let's just say I know many people, was good friends with a distributor. I used to be in the loop haha, I'll leave it at that. But the DEA has made it pretty impossible these days to get pharmaceuticals manufactured in US. Thats why serostims are 750+ because it's not as easy to get. But yea not eroids sources. It's all about who you know. But yea I haven't spoke to those people in a while, I think I should see if they are still around.

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There is a ton of great growth sources right now. Hyges, rips, novos, VIPs are all putting out great serum results . The sides are more than manageable. I'm running six iu and it has not affected my lifts in a negative way at all. I'm a Lil bloated , hands and feet are swollen and my hands are numb texting this. But nothing horrible. There is no way in hell I could afford to run pharma grade . To be honest I don't plan on it either. As long as we have decent generic sources I would take advantage of them. Pharma grade would be amazing , but with the cost of food, aas, slin, pins, gym I mean ..'... No pharma grade in this guys future ! Lol

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lol you can bet 2-3g's of AAS will be in there along with 60+iu slin per day. HGH is the last piece of my puzzle!

bulk makes sense to me. I can't justify spending $2 per IU that's rediculous

Warmachine's picture

Dont forget your T4 Brother... LOL

j223's picture

sounds like you know where I'm coming from then. Yes stay tuned. I'm working all summer so I can buy my truckloads of HGH kits. I'll be sure to post pics haha

Warmachine's picture

Great minds think alike!

mjunkie's picture

You can't say growth is weak in terms of gains because u didn't run at a high enough dose to make gains. At the right dose with or without slin u will see gains. The main benefit at 5iu is fatloss, try 8iu+ and the main benefit is hyperplasia. Wether that's worth the price or not depends on how much u strive to be a bodybuilder.

mjunkie's picture

Dak got u covered bro. And that's where the synergy of the two come from. Anyway if u do it for health reasons i see no need to go higher then 4iu.

dak979's picture

Hyperplasia is the creation of new cells versus hypertrophy which is making ur own muscle cells grow

j223's picture

Interesting! I learned something new today. So what's it take to get this 'hypertrophy' lol

dak979's picture

Hypertrophy is what u have been doing all along since u started bodybuilding bro lol.

j223's picture

so what you are saying is AAS/insulin are responsible for hypertrophy and HGH hyperplasia? Sorry If that sounds like a dumb question this is pretty new to me.

dak979's picture

U know when they say 4-6 reps for strength, 6-12 reps for size? By size they mean Hypertrophy. Training and eating a good diet is responsible for hypertrophy. AAS with all its anabolic characteristics are hypertrophy accelerators.

So basically yes is the answer to ur question

mjunkie's picture

I dont know your friend, but just because he said he used 5iu doesn't mean it's true. 5iu fda gh you will see good muscle gains but rips...i highly doubt you'll see anything more then fat loss

Another thing to consider is age. A 40 year old will see way more results from 5iu then someone in their 20s.

Makwa's picture

Does this hyperplasia occur only with the addition of Slin?

dak979's picture

No, but it is further promoted with slin in there.

dak979's picture

Its also a slow and long process. Not just dosage related. It does this through elevated IGF levels over time if Im not mistaken. With Chinese ull probably need more than 8 lol

j223's picture

Glad to hear your thoughts. Pretty cool that low dose like 3iu is giving you good fatloss benefits.
I just personally think with the amount of money HGH is why not max out benefits? Anyways glad to hear low dose works for you. Yes I been using peptides with good effects actually. I just can't get fat.

dak979's picture

He went to 5IU in the FIRST month ^^

j223's picture

oh 5iu, nvm I see haha I read too fast and thought he said 3iu for 5 month durr durr me lol

so 5iu with good fatloss and broader shoulders without slin, not bad.

dak979's picture

Yup not bad, other than the 66% increase in cost Blum 3

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Ur first post totally agrees with the advice I gave to the OP down there. Thanks for sharing ur experience, +1

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