posted Thu, 04/04/2024 - 22:00
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HGH water retention.
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Currently on 2.5IU of hgh before bed. Am getting a lot of water retention is there anyway around this? My diet is good and my salt intake low.
Been on it now for 3 weeks.
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Those night time shots will get you every time
Any time i jab before bed i wake up with those damn needle sensations and numb hands plus in the morning i wake a puffer fish
I get it a lot but doesnt bother me anymore as i know how to fix within myself and doesn't cause much of an issue besides in my appearance. For me, more water helps. 1.5 - 2 gallons a day is my normal, but i also add some 'keto drops" which is electrolytes, concentrated salt, magnesium, and potassium drops
Splitting it up is helpful. Also I noticed for me the nighttime shot gives me the worst CTS and water retention in the hands. So I won’t do any after maybe 7pm and that helped me. Also you could try doing a some bloodwork and seeing if all your electrolytes and everything is dialed in perfectly. Electrolytes and hydration are very important but it’s all about the ratio not just the total amount
Some guys will see benefit from splitting dose, you could try 1.25iu first thing in the morning and 1.25 pre bed. Less spike all at once and may make it more manageable. You’re still pretty fresh to it and sides with hgh go away gradually so another month and this will probably be resolved. Your body is learning how to regulate its own water retention with this new addition and that takes time. It’s one of the reasons we advise guys to titrate their dosage up slowly.
Usually I’d recommend:
1-2 iu all at once pre bed
3-4 iu split am/pm
5-6 iu split am/pre or post workout/pm
8iu or more generally we want some other supps in there to assist with blood sugar…
Have you heard of higher doses of hgh actually dropping blood sugar? I did my usual dose the other day, and like 20 minutes later I felt like I was weak and shaky and my blood sugar was low, ate some Frosted Flakes and some Gatorade and I was fine but it was odd.
Yes I’ve actually experienced this as well. There is a lot going on here so I’ll try and keep it brief.
Hgh overall increases blood glucose levels on average. BUT, it also converts to igf 1 which decreases blood glucose levels. It also converts inactive thyroid to active thyroid increasing your metabolism. While physiological levels of hgh are low enough that those second two mechanisms are kept in check, supra-physiological levels can override the rise in blood sugar and drop you hypo if you haven’t eaten or have just trained really hard.
We need to remember that while using hgh your body is going to need more food in general, and if the dose is creeping higher and higher the food has to come up with it in most cases.
Hope that helps.
"BUT, it also converts to igf 1 which decreases blood glucose levels."
Which can send the body into a natural state of overdrive.
Excellent post. It's important for a person to be able to differentiate and recognize what is going on to take the right actions. Don't want to make things worse which could easily happen if you don't know exactly what is going on.
+1
Thanks that’s all great info. I had been thinking the gh wasn’t even real because I was able to do 10 ius with no side effects so my second question was going to be if there’s maybe another peptide that would cause time to go hypo that could’ve been sold to me as hgh. But if you say it can happen than I believe you lol. So maybe it is real and I’m just not getting the usual side effects I guess?
You should pull igf numbers to see if it’s real. It’s pretty cheap to test for igf, $70-100 for the test.
You also may just process gh quite well and not get many sides.
The reason I might hold off for a little bit is because right now I know my liver enzymes are all out of wack and that can mess with igf-1 levels. But idk it actually blunts the effect of gh or just effects the reading in the test but either way I may wait until my liver is functioning properly and then run the test
If liver is heavily taxed then you’ll blunt the igf1 benefits which is the actual size growth you’ll get out of gh.
You will still get the thyroid increase and fat burning regardless, but then we have to get into the discussion of is it worth the money. T3 and clen are pretty darn cheap and probably better at supporting thyroid and burning fat.
Ok now this is where I’m getting confused. If my liver is blunting the benefits of igf, but at the same time the igf is more than likely causing my glucose issue, isn’t that kinda contradictory? Or could both statements be true simultaneously?
Only way to know really is bloodwork, I’ve seen guys on orals still come back super high igf1 so it’s very individual specific. There are also gh non-responders and hyper responders. With the price of gh I would test each time you switch suppliers. This will also over the long run give you good benchmarks for how your body processes it. I know with my own bloods 4iu usually returns an igf in the low 400’s if the gh is good quality.
Haven't heard of it in anyone except you and I. I hate gummy bears, but keep some in my nightstand in case i wake up in a hypo daze that fixes the problem almost instantly. This was when i was at 8-12iu.
Have you tried Albanese gummy bears? They're very good.
Nah nah albanese peach rings are where it’s atttt
That sounds really good. I've never tried them. Is it a gummy?
Just checked them out. I'll have to try them.
Cluster Dextrin is a good option for after you inject HGH. I like Nutra Bio's Super Carb. 1 scoop = 25grams
So it’s a common thing to go hypo on hgh? Cus usually guys are using insulin to keep from getting to high of blood sugar not too low so that’s what’s confusing me
Well I wasn’t sure if it was the gh because I had experienced it before when I wasn’t on gh but I was fucking my self up drink tons of mass gainer for months and bulking with high carbs for months. So then when I went a few hours without carbs I’d go hypo. I had fixed that issue by not using the mass gainer carb shakes anymore and it went away and now it’s happened a few times this month but hadn’t attributed it to the hgh until the other day when it happened like 10 minutes after a shot and came on fast . And also I’m at the same I’ve been doing like 7-10 and that day I had done 8 I belive‘
Tren makes me go through it too when i was doing the mass gainers and bulking at 5-6k calories a day. First time it happened i thought i woke just to die but i have a diabetic friend that always carrys candy around just in case so i crawled downstairs and ate a pint of halo top ice cream. Its kind of a tough pro/con debate for me though. I like tren and will never give up gh, but as i age, the hypo hits me harder than ever so i will have to lower dosages but when i start getting hypo symptoms, im usually in best all around shape, size, and aesthetics
Ya tren and also I think it’s was dbol too or maybe anadrol I forget which but one of them seems to burn through carbs like a bitch just like tren
It’s the dose. That’s a lot of gh. At that dose you’re growing tissue, skin, cartilage, hair, everything at a faster rate and your body is burning through calories much faster to keep up with it.
How were your results at 12iu? That’s hefty. I know open class pros that top out at 8iu
At 12iu, i was still in a wheelchair recovering from 3 spinal surgeries with about 50% chance of walking again. I credit the gh with getting me on my feet again, and i ran this week the first time in 4.5 years.
During that time my feet went from size 12 to size 14 and head circumference has increased 1.5 inches along with much sharper cuts along jaw line. I stick to 2-6iu 5x a week now depending on how my neuropathy (pins & needles) feels. Gh has cured mine but i believe it will still be lifelong injections.
Ya I experienced this at about 8 that day but other days I’ve been at 10. This month I just started pushing those doses, I’ve usually only done 4 but with this new stuff I haven’t any sides so I kept upping the dose and still no sides so I was questioning if it’s even real but I guess if at 8-10 it’s making me hypo I guess it is real
It could be higher dosages too. I read one source here has kits with 3x the normal amount per vial are being sold and have been 3rd party tested.
Ya but there selling them as 30 iu vials so it’s not like anyones accidentally doing huge amounts
Yeah look at your diet, salt is the sole determining factor of water retention. Enough you are hydrating properly. Lower the dose, see if that changes anything. I'm at 4iu split dose, you can also try splitting it.
What is more important is your carbohydrate intake, i.e. has it changed compared to the time before HGH. From experience, you shouldn't hold water much at only 2.5iu. You could stay on that dose a little longer until the body eventually gets used to it or go down to 2iu for a while and after a while go back to 2.5iu. What else you could do is to increase your water intake and take natural diuretics Uva Ursi Dandelion Juniper Berry...