+ 61 HGH – How much and when to take it….plus some other tidbits
Seems to be a lot of talk lately about HGH, especially when to take and even how much to take so I figured it was good time to give my perspective on this. First off, let me say that I have been using HGH pretty consistently for probably around the past 5 years or so and have tried many different protocols because there seems to be so many damn protocols out there. All these different protocols are confusing with no justification for them, which just muddies things up and has people wondering if they are doing it right. So I want to clear up some of that mud and give you some sound advice so you can make your own informed decision without being confused or wondering if you are doing it right.
All these different HGH dosing and timing protocols will suit different goals. There is nothing inherently wrong with any of them, but some are better suited towards certain goals than others. With this knowledge in hand, you should be able to choose a specific protocol that fits your goals the best and hopefully gives you some piece of mind that you are doing it the right way since this stuff isn’t cheap and you want to get the best bang for your buck.
Before we get into the nitty gritty of things, I highly recommend that you get your baseline IGF levels checked. This will let you know if HGH is even a worthwhile endeavor for you. For most it likely will be, but better safe than sorry. If you have a decent baseline IGF level what is the point in pinning a small, so called replacement dose for anti-aging purposes, doesn’t make sense logically and fiscally to pin exogenous HGH to replace your natty levels. HGH is not additive to natty levels, Just like pinning test is not additive to your natty test. There is a negative feedback loop here once again. Those of you 30+ years in age and especially 40 and us 50+ years in age will probably find your IGF levels really taking a nose dive. Seems to be after 30+ years old they really take a dive and supplemental HGH is likely a good choice, even just for ant-aging purposes and not necessarily for bodybuilding. You young bucks in your 20’s are probably wasting your money on HGH unless you are pushing the dosages for bodybuilding purposes, which is perfectly fine if using it in that regard.
A couple of other points to keep in mind if you are considering a run of HGH. It is not going to turn you into an IFBB pro, you will not gain a ton of muscle and it will take a long time to burn off any significant amount of fat. This is a long-term endeavor. A 100iu kit is not enough for a run of GH.
so don’t waste your money if that was the plan. Get enough to run your highest projected daily dose (yes, I said run it daily) for at least 4 months to really get something positive out of it, and the longer you run it the better it just keeps getting.
Now that all of that is out of the way, on to the good stuff.
How much should I take
Let’s start off with probably the easiest choice you have to make and that is how much you should be taking. Before we get too far into that though, I just want to point out that the best way to start your HGH regime is to start with a low dose and gradual ramp up the dose (if you plan to go above 2iu/d that is). Doing it this way will help you to avoid or at least minimize some of the undesirable side effects that can come with HGH supplementation. I’m sure you have all heard the horror stories of CTS, bloating, joint pain etc. Ramp it up slowly and you can avoid or minimize most of that.
Let me break the recommended dosages down pretty easy for you.
Anti-aging (2-3iu)
So, to start off most people can handle 2 IU’s per day without any issues and this just happens to be about a full replacement dose for most middle-aged folks for general wellbeing, anti-aging, and healing etc. So just start there, no need to ramp up to that. 3iu is on the upper end of that anti-aging scale and I would ramp up to that if that is where you want to go. Start at 2 iu for a few weeks then go jup 0.5iu every couple of weeks or so and you shouldn’t have any issues and then cruise on your 3iu/d.
Are you going to notice anything earth shattering on 2iu/d? Nope, at least I really didn’t. Might sleep a little better and your beard, nose, ear and back hair grows faster but don’t expect to lose 10lbs of fat or gain 10lbs of muscle. 3iu should start to get you a little more fat loss. 3iu is where I cruise off cycle and the effects I see between 2 vs 3iu are night and day. Recovery after workouts is much better and additional fat loss is definitely noticeable. If 2iu works for you, then just stick with that. This is supposed to be your plan.
Bodybuilding (4-8iu)
Now we get into the fun doses of HGH. (Again, ramp up to these dosages and plan ahead because it can take quite a while to get there) This dosage range will give you accelerated and substantial fat loss, maximum recouperation from your workouts and actually start to build some lean mass due to hyperplasia and that is the name of the game when it comes to bodybuilding and also for those weird powerlifters
For the average gym rat I don’t recommend going above 8iu. Dosages higher than that will require other ancillaries to make the most efficient use of it which is beyond the scope of what I want to cover here. 4iu is great, 6 is better and you can imagine what 8iu does. I have ran all these dosages and the steps up in dosage do correlate with greater results, the key is how much can you handle (or afford). I can’t push it above 6iu/d nowadays. I turn into a complete zombie and just want to sleep all day so I have to cap at 6iu now. Even at 6iu the fat melts off me and it is impossible to get sore (DOMS) from my workouts no matter how brutal they are. Recovery is phenomenal. 4iu recovery is still pretty damn good and fat loss is still quite noticeable so that 4-6iu is the optimum range for me. Up to you to find your sweet spot now. At least you know a solid range to shoot for when using for bodybuilding purposes. All I can say is the higher the better if you can handle it but even at 4iu you definitely will reap the rewards.
When getting up into the bodybuilding dosage range, I highly recommend that you start splitting the dosages into multiple times/day. This will help to alleviate a lot of the potential side effects. Still makes me sleepy above 6iu/d, but the joint pain/swelling, CTS and water retention are much less. This is a good lead into timing of your HGH.
When to take your HGH
There are several optimal times when to take your HGH which I will spell out here and a lot of it just depends on your specific goal and/or age, so take your HGH when it seems most advantageous to you. To lay it out plain and simple there are basically 3 optimum times I see when it is most advantageous to take your HGH. These are:
- First thing in the morning (particularly while fasted)
- Preworkout
- Bedtime
Morning shot
This is one of the most common times you hear people recommend taking HGH and there are good reasons for taking it in the morning. There are a couple of times during the day that cortisol spikes in the body, one of these times is early morning. Hopefully you all know that high levels of cortisol are very catabolic, i.e. bad. Hitting a shot of HGH right away in the morning will help blunt the catabolic effects of cortisol and shift you into a more anabolic state. Catabolic bad, anabolism good 
Now time that morning shot while you are in a fasted state and you can also accelerate the fat burning properties of HGH. This is due to the fact that HGH releases glucose and fatty acids to circulation, (it basically takes your stored fat and releases it into the bloodstream for energy use). Stay away from carbs for an hour so after taking it to maximize fat burning. Once you introduce carbs your body will start burning those for fuel and blunt the lipolysis from the HGH. Shot of HGH first thing in the morning, then some fasted cardio to really burn off those free fatty acids in the bloodstream and you now have the golden ticket for fat loss. Now, keep the fat burning train rolling by eating the perfect breakfast after your cardio which I have laid out here:
https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/diet/the-perfect-breakfast
So, morning is just overall a fantastic time for HGH. You get the double whammy of blunting cortisol and accelerated fat burning.
Preworkout
Preworkout is a good time for a shot of HGH. (Assuming you workout late afternoon/early evening is where you get the best bang for buck with a shot of it). Once again cortisol is spiking around this time and a shot of GH will blunt that nasty cortisol. It will also help mobilize fatty acids once again and provide more energy for your workouts and enhanced fat burning just like when you took it in the morning. It will also be peaking around your post workout meal and help provide some nutrient shuttling to promote anabolism. So, as you can see, prewo is another perfect time to take it.
Bedtime
This is probably a good time for those of you using it for anti-aging purposes with tanked IGF levels.
If sleep is a big issue for you then you may want to try hitting your HGH at bedtime to simulate when your body would have naturally had its highest pulse. One of the big positives many rave about is the improved sleep it provides. If you already sleep like a baby, then stick to morning or prewo.
Splitting up doses
So, what about splitting up doses? Glad you asked. I highly recommend splitting your dose of HGH when you get above 3iu. Main reason is that this really helps to alleviate those nasty side effects I mentioned earlier like CTS and water retention. The other reason is that you can really optimize its effects by pinning at a couple of those different times I mentioned and reap all those benefits multiple times a day. Why would you pass that up 
There you have it. Hopefully now you can make a more informed decision on how to set up your run of HGH for optimal results and some of the muddy water has been cleared up.
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Take a shot right before bed. It should be peaking about the time that your natty pulse of it would be peaking then. Try not to eat any carbs right before bed either.
Great information, thanks for taking the time out and putting it together. Reads really easy makes a lot of sense.
Think I will start splitting my dose as I get so fatigued and tired, have to nap I have no choice. If I have a really busy/tough day I don't take it. So splitting the dose in two makes sense.
Quick question probably stupid question. I done Gentropin Pharma, best I used yet. Didn't really feel tired more refreshed.
Some of Generic or UGL labs HGH knock me for six tiredness wise, water retention etc.. Side effects seem to vary so much depending on brand?
I think where side effects become worse is when the purity is little lower and more dimers are present. Not as strict of standards with UGL so the dimers may get a little high sometimes. Still good GH as far as increasing IGF levels but the sides can be a little more pronounced.
What UG brands of GH could you recommend? Primarily something available from EU domestic sellers.
Good shit. Soon as I can I'm running it down