posted Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:38
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BPC-157 vs TB-500: Multiple injuries
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I've been researching both BPC and TB, figuring out which would be best for me and my needs, hoping someone could shed some light.
I know BPC is best used as site-specific where TB can be injected into the belly and coarse throughout the body. I have had an IT band strain (affecting knee and hip) and an ankle sprain (maybe?), both of which have been lingering for months. I've been seeing a chiropractor for a while hoping it would help, and it has, but not fully. With multiple injuries, would TB be better suited for me, or should I do 1/3 of each BPC pin in each location, or perhaps 1 in each location with 3 pins a day?
Thanks in advance for any input.
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I've been using BPC 157 at 400 mcg/D for knee pain. I've recently had a OATS procedure on me knee and looking to aid recovery. So far no changes after a week. How could I tell if my gear is bunk?
Peptides will surely help. Keep in mind that while TB-500 is known as a systemic, there are site specific benefits if you choose to inject around the area of injury. Some people are more comfortable with sub-q injections in the belly, and those will be beneficial as well.
For an IT band strain, use a foam roller and very carefully roll out the IT band on a daily basis, multiple times a day, followed by gentle stretching and postural awareness exercises. When using a roller, find an exceptionally knotty or tight spot, stay on it, and take deep breathes and let your body relax. Utilize the golgi tendon reflex to relax your muscles by applying PNF techniques, and you will feel relief soon.
I would recommend a massage therapist who deals with sports injuries first. A chiropractor will help if your injury is posturally related, for example if your hips are out of alignment, but strengthening the proper muscles and stretching the others, utilizing massage therapy and foam rolling, and being concious of your form and technique are by far the best steps you can take.
Hazel, thanks so much for all of your feedback! I've been rolling (foam roller and recovery stick) as well as flossing (floss band) regularly. Like I said, I have seen continuous improvement, just not pain free and after 4+ months of pain. It's making it very difficult to stick to a powerlifting program without squatting heavy. As my main focus right now is healing and not necessarily growth, I will likely stick to either TB or BPC, instead of going the GH peptide route right now. Thanks again for the input!
Flossband, wow, I was not aware of that until you mentioned it, I'm going to order that for myself. Thanks for mentioning it, I'm always on the lookout for cool new-to-me products. I see Kelly Starrett promotes it-- that guy's instructional mobility and rehab videos have helped me so much I feel like I should be writing him a cheque for thousands of dollars. He's done more for me than any medical professional I've consulted with IRL has.
Squatting wide and heavy as you probably do in powerlifting might be a little tricky, but the best way to get back into it is start light and work back up, as you probably obviously are aware of.
I can understand being frustrated after dealing with an injury for many months. I've been there. You don't want to give up the progress you were / are making, getting your numbers up in powerlifting is an addictive pursuit. The advice I can offer in that regard, is to find a squat variation that doesn't aggravate your injury, maybe a more traditional olympic style narrow stance squat, or even a front squat.
These variations will challenge your body in some ways more than others than wide stance PL style squatting, and you don't have to quit squatting low-bar, but you can lighten up the load for the PL movement and focus more on volume, which will benefit you in aiding blood flow and circulation to the affected tissues. I think if you focus on making progress with a squat variation, that over time as you make the PL wide stance squat more of a focus, you'll find that your injury or lack thereof has progressed to a level where you can continue training as you were before.
At least that's how its worked with me-- after month's of focusing on RDL's or SLDL's or Olympic style pulls, I switched back to standard heavy PL style deadlifts, and had found that by strengthening the other movements and working on technique, that my injury had just kind of taken care of itself and I was able to resume pulling like before I tweaked my low back.
I think you've got it mostly figured out and just need to stick with it. Remember that those healing peptides are basically a downstream affect of elevated GH and IGF levels... if for some reason all the sources for TB-500 or BPC-157 were somehow bunk, you would still be reaping a benefit by using GH or GH peptides. Elevated GH and IGF can be accomplished through better quality sleep, the effect of training on biological processes, a higher caloric intake-- there's more than one way to beat a horse. Or something.
Best wishes!
Thanks again for all the input. I've recently begun narrowing my stance and have seen a reduction in pain from it. If you haven't already, check out his Supple Leopard book, it has opened my mind to just how much every body part of mine and it's respective mobility sucks. It's given me a lot to work on, and opened my eyes.
Cheers!
Any other input would be greatly appreciated....
You must remember that physical therapy and rehabilitation protocols, and preventative measures as I listed in my other post in your thread, should be considered the first line of defense. Improving your mobility and technique will help you from aggravating existing injuries as well as prevent new ones from occurring. Peptides and other compounds will help speed up recovery, but won't do the work themselves. Also, look into the anti-inflammatory circumin or just plain old turmeric, as a way to reduce bodily inflammation levels. Good luck!
Richard.SimmonsThere are so many Peps that have healing compounds. TB and BPC aren't to bad. I would normally stick to something that would also help growth to help get them joints stronger? BPC's have anti-inflammatores in them which is not to bad. When it comes to peps the best thing to do is research. I'm sure we'll get 29 different answers. ;-)
Do you feel that a ghrp/ghrh would offer the same healing abilities as BPC or TB? While growth would be an added bonus, my main concern is healing of these nagging injuries that are preventing me from squatting.
GHRP/GHRH will elevate circulating igf and hgh levels which will contribute to your body's ability to heal and recover, but the healing specific peptides such as BPC-157 and TB-500 will be much more effective, much more quickly.