posted Sun, 12/09/2012 - 14:06
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Views on longer Tren A cycles.
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Bros, looking to get anybody's views and experience on longer tren cycles( 20+ weeks). Experiences? Advice? Results? Looking for the guys that have been there done that. I already have myself, but its been a while. What did you do? How did you handle the sides if you had any? (Lethargy is my enemy ). What did you run with it? ANY experiences are welcomed! Thanks all!
I'd like to add that obviously( to most) this is not the only compound that is used during a cycle.
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I know this was started about tren a, but i have been of 2 long run tren Hex cycles and as long as I keep the tren hex low-like 100mg every 5 days and use caber and letro to keep prolactin in check-yeah it showed itself quick! everything was ok. Any higher for me on the tren hex or tren e and the trensomnia and lethargy just wiped me out. I use test e at 250 mg every week with it also. It took a while to come to that dosage, and for me personally it works great!
Depends on how long you can handle the sides for. I don't suffer a lot of tren sides if the test dose is 60%(ish) or less of the tren dose, but my fuse gets shorter and shorter as time goes on. This also brings into account what family / work issues you have around you.
20 weeks too long for me and most I would suggest, and my mrs would undoubtedly kick me out the door way before then.
Yes.... I get pretty nasty after a while. With me it doesn't matter if I run low test or high test. My attitude turns sour after about 12 weeks. I honestly attribute this..... With me.... To the lack of sleep that builds up and I get a sort of ongoing tension/stress level which then makes me more irritable.
Pretty sure that's the case for most and you've hit the nail on the head there. Disturbed sleep builds up and your tolerance goes down.
Nights sweats and not sleeping more than 4-6 hrs tops were my worst sides. Some anxiety but not intolerable. I ran .6g week of Eq and testE along with TrenA at 50mg eod for 20weeks. My pecker seemed to give me a little trouble maintaining an erection for a few weeks after stopping the Tren. I cruise test only at .3g week. I would like to try some caber next go around with the Tren. I loved the gains I made. I cetainly feel much stronger when using Tren than when not. However my cardio did suffer while on Tren, but I used that as just another challenge to work through.
Yes..... My cardio suffers tremendously. No sexual sides really but sweats and insomnia start to cause me to get somewhat nuts after a while. I only get anxiety from TREN in the first week and then it subsides to nothing at all tho.
I personally hit a wall after about a month on it. I don't know if my body adapts to it or what but I stop making gains between 4-6 weeks so I won't go any longer. Just not worth the wear n tear if I'm not benefiting. Consider tren e?
I did 16 weeks Tren Ace during the mid summer (started after July 4th) at 100mg/ed. Results were great and the common sides were minimized by the stable levels (when I would do EOD almost every side got significantly more pronounced). I used caber throughout as well, .25mg/e3d, and that also made a huge difference on my general well being. Night sweats never went away. Nor did the negative impact on my appetite or the almost predatory sexual thoughts.
I am going to hit another 16 this coming Spring but I will be mixing both Tren Enan and Ace, still pinning ed.
After the 16 weeks, my cholesterol was noticeably affected but my thyroid was not (I had also taken t3 and t4 during the blast but used Clomid afterwards to kickstart it - it actually worked).
Tren Enan is notorious for bringing out the worst of the tren related side effects.
Hmm. Thanks for your response! Some very helpful insight here. Like the t3 and t4. I've not tried it ever and just ran long tren cycles without it. Do you think it helped, or were you running it for any other reason? Like more weight loss? I'd be I interested to hear more from you. Fr sent.
My buddy is going on 18 wks I think, he is obsessed with tren lol. It all depends how u handle the sides, some people just don't care about the sides and go big and get shredded, others can't stand 4 wks of it. I don't like the anxiety it gives me but I'm gonna use some next cycle and suck it up its not too bad and worth it for the body it gives u (along with training and diet of course)
Oh, and if your gonna go that long it would very smart to just use Tren Enan or Hex, ace is such a short ester that 20 wks of that would suck IMO
Never really liked enan. In the longer cycles I like the ace exactly because the sides start to get hectic after a while and I can ease back quick if need be. Never tried hex. But yes pinning Ed for that length gets old fast! Lol
Ya I didn't think about that, with ace u can stop quick if u want. But would it really make a big difference? Like if sides got intense and u stopped taking the enan, wouldn't it get less intense over a week? It wouldn't be extremely uncomfortable would it?
I can honestly say that I don't have enough experience with enan to agree or disagree. I've tried it once and wasnt very impressed so I switched to ace about 3-3 1/2 weeks in. For me ace is just insane, and when I'm really feeling the crap outta it I can just take a break for a day or two and feel quite a bit better. Less toxic (just a term I use) maybe? And I can get some zzz's back in just 2-3 days. Enan might be good mid cycle however, starting with ace- then moving to enan- then deeper into the cycle moving back to ace when the no sleep starts to really take its toll. This has me interested. Something I might take a serious look at in fact. I've always been a fan of the ace though. Hence my name FinMan! Lol. I've been known to brew my own golden fire! Thanks for your insight bro. Really.
i dont have experience running it by hllywdbdby posted a similar topic and suggested running it 4 on 2 off 4 on and so on so the sides didnt catch up with you...let me see if i can find a link to that thread
it was roidnoid...here it is http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/anybody-ever-try-...
Yes, thank you. I have seen that actually and commented on it. It was what prompted me to start this thread! :-). I appreciate that very much though. I've tried the on and off method myself actually. Never considered it actually cycling, but it really is.
Tren and deca suppress your thyroid along with the fact they reeeeally suppress test much more harshly than other compounds.. I don't think it's a great idea to run either for that long.. You could use it to kick start a long cycle or to end a cycle
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Point well taken about the thyroid! Thx.
Don't get me wrong i LOVE the stuff.. But we get shredded and jacked off a 8 week cycle of it just fine
I have not yet done a 20+week tren cycle but I have experienced the lethargy in a major way by my 7th week. After reading on the decrease of Dhea and adrenal exhaustion I started to supplement Dhea 25mgs a day and it cured my lethargy. Not that this is always the answer but for me in this case it was.
That's something to look into actually. This is exactly the kind of input I'm looking for. Thanks bro.
Thx for beginning this thread FN. It's a good read. I've had my love/'hate relationship with the trens. Some years ago I tried Tri and it was a nightmare experience. The side were intolerable. Then I went to Eth like 600/wk and never slept, didn't want sex and had to sleep on a towel. But I kept it up anyway. I did not use Cab but was running test and taking arimidex and probably Mast too and EQ or Deca along with some d-bol. Now I finally have it pretty much figured out so it all runs smoothly. First off I switched to 25ga 5/8" pins and use my quads. Like using B-12!
Next I'm running T3 and Dhea to go along with HGH at 3iu, 5 on 2 off. The side are tolerable and I don't feel like a pin cushion. Oh yeah, a gm of Test E weekly so I'm horny as all get out. I going to try come Cab when I can get a hold of some because I've read it helps. Hope you enjoyed my rant.
Hey bro !
I certainly did enjoy your rant! I've never tried the tri an I have limited experience with enth. I really prefer the ace. I've cycled tren with various compounds myself, like mast and had dbol thrown in as well or anadrol. I've never had the experience yet of GH but I'm hoping that will change very soon. Like real soon! I too also started using 25g 5/8 in the quads! I use 25g for most everything now unless its kinda thick then I go with 23g. Caber helps certainly. I have just been introduced to DHEA by a bro who has been there done that and is giving some good advice to me. Much needed and appreciated in fact. I don't feel like crap anymore. I can train and function again as a normal (somewhat) person again. Sleep is still very off and on but that I expect from tren. I take some scripted stuff to get to sleep but I'm up after 3-4 hours hoping to fall back asleep usually. Anyway, thanks for your input ..... All is welcome bro! Keep me Informed of your hi-jinks on the tren train!! Lol.
Your welcome. I couldn't get out of my own way it was so bad. Now when I run tren I don't get lethargic.