My TRT regimen. For TRT guys.
At 42, 5'8.. 14% BF. I changed my TRT up and I've had great results.
DOC PRESCRIBED:
100mg Test Cyp every 7 Days
HCG 250iu 2x per week
No AI
On that regimen I was moody, anxiety, and bloated. Sleep wasn't great, No ED.
MY testosterone would test high 900, Estradiol high 40's at end of week after stopping HCG. Weight 165lbs and 14% BF. Fatty pecs.
FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW I'VE CHANGED TO:
100mg Test Cyp or Eth every 5 days
No HCG
2iu's HGH (Pharma Genotropin, JTPN or Nomatropin) everyday
Proviron 25mg everyday
Clomid 5mg a few times a week
After a few months I'm solid. BF 10%, ZERO bloat, want sex everyday, all day. The boys are a bit shrunk, but the pen is always ready. Train like a beast, never get tired or badly sore. Sleep is excellent with vivid dreams. My muscles feel like stone. Pecs more solid. I'm up to 178lbs. I will get bloods but I stop all for at least 7 days bc my Doc would prob lose it if I test over 1000.
REVISED 3/26/2014
125mg Test Cyp or Eth every 5 days
HCG Coming soon
2iu's HGH (Pharma Genotropin, JTPN or Nomatropin) everyday
Proviron 25mg everyday
Clomid 10mg a few times a week
Adex .25 every 4th day
Reason for revision I noticed I hit a plateau. Pecs started to get fatty again. So I added an AI now and upped test. I may also try some HCG so I will update that. The Pharma HGH has been super clean compared to generics. Although the generic brands I am using are really good.
What works for me may not work for you. I don't want to do upwards of 500mg Test, then Tren, Var and other compounds. I look excellent and feel fantastic, no need to go extreme. That's me. I started slowly and tried different methods. Gels, Pellets and now injections. I started low dose and found my good point. All you guys in your 20's pumping these compounds scares me. I never needed anything until I hit my late 30's! I wasn't huge but I was a fitness beast. I hope you guys realize that when you don't recover from all these harsh cycles that you'll be pinning for the rest of your lives (20 or more plus years). I'm prob on TRT now 5 years and all this pinning and blood testing, money spent on prescriptions, HGH.. I would give anything to be 30 again and not need it.
Just stay safe guys. Please think before you end up on this forever.
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Hi, wondering, why is Clomid really a replacement for HcG? Are your boys still full and all?
??????? ,.......... May I suggest a "No Homo" at the end of that.
Great old thread. You've given good advice to the young lads, CP. I hope they listen.
100-125mg every 5 days works real well for most men. I like your log, smart man!
QtripsThere were times when I stopped HCG for a few days, and my libido turned very high. When back on HCG, very low. I really do think HCG is not as good as we think it is, and it's interesting you turned to Clomid. How did clomid affect the boys? Do you feel they've gotten bigger or smaller compared to HCG? Does the clomid produce more or less sperm than HCG did? Give us the details, man! This is something I've been thinking about trying for a while, as HCG is not good to me except for keeping the boys there.
QtripsAlso, how did you come across 5 mg clomid? Or do you cut tabs?
I buy the tabs from a source here. If you look for my pics you will see them. Also I'm revising my Clomid. 10 mg a few times a week. I've been doing that now and yes the boys are affected, more fuller and bigger and better loads of course. Also an overall better feeling with my libido.
Is that pic still up? Looked and didnt see anything on your profile.
QtripsAnd this is in relation to HCG, correct? I really don't believe HCG stimulates much FSH, just LH mostly. Clomid stimulates both and I think FSH plays a very big role in all things male, much bigger than it's given credit for.
Very interesting read.
Glad you've found what works best for you!
Just goes to show how different we all are & how differently we all respond.
what was your experience with pelleting if you don't mind? I am 62
Been doing injections of blast and cruise doses for two years (150-500 wk/divided into two doses per week no matter the dose). And did HGH for about 6 months and need to get back on it...I was hoping price and availability would change, but demand is way increasing too
Find I am getting more and more sensitive to "rage" with family, short tempered, may I say sometime unreasonable right after Test E OR P injections. I know E....but I swear I can feel an "edge" to my temper a few hours after Enthante and and after that I can get to be a sarcastic asshole the next day and not even know it is ME causing the problem until days later Can't do that to my family anymore...? lol...nah, not me
taking other AIs, Proviron, etc. but want to ask you about pelleting. My doc is a (probably) disgraced orthopedic surgeon from a large Texas town, now he comes to these obscure NE texas towns twice a month esp to pellet women. He asked me if I was on test and he knows I do injections...his big focus (and apparently fun) is in the sexual benefit of test implants in women, etc. and is always wanting to go up in dosage.....sooo, that said, he will be very cooperative, I am sure, in getting me back to very high levels (prob over 1200 always, or over 2000 who knows? the cutoff for high is 1200 and the lab just says over 1200)
Anway I am wondering about pelleting (wife gets it) and if I could poss stop sticking needled in my butt twice per fucking week and still have a libido that BARELY keeps up with the old lady....and sometimes I "tap" out...even with these levels.
What you think about pellets? If your MD was wanting you to be as high as possible, would it have been a problem? Or was your MD conservative as most are with TRT....
Like I have been TRT levels in sometime...hahh...oh well.
Could they work?
thanks,
Sorry for the late reply I haven't been on much. Otherwise as far as your "RAGE" or sides of moodiness, when I first started TRT therapy I dealt with a lot of those problems. Especially when I started hCG. That made my anger skyrocket.
I believe all of this happened because I started everything at once too soon. My doctor at that time didn't advise me any better. I really believe starting with a low dose of test for a little while and then slowly adding other compounds as your body adjusts to the hormones is the safest and best way. How do you know what is causing you the side effects if you start everything at once?
After being off TRT for a long while I met up with my current doctor. He's a urologist and andrologist. After numerous low blood tests he started me on gels. From gels I went to pellets (Testopel) to now currently injections.
Gels, pellets and injections all maintained my levels in the high 900s. Gels for me are a pain in the ass. Every day and risk of transfer. Pellets is a small surgery every three months. And I don't care what anyone says it's painful. You are sore as heck for at least three weeks after it's done. Getting in and out of the car is the worst. It's hard to work out and it leaves a small scar each time it's done. Two months after 10 pellets implanted my levels tested in the high 900s. That is amazing.
Now I am injecting every six days 100 mg. I love the way I feel, I love that I can adjust the dose. My muscles feel fantastic my libido is fine. I take .5mg Adex every 4th day. I did not start adex until I was doing TRT and injections almost one year.
I hope this answers some of your questions. Good Luck.
thank you man....sorry I did not see the reply!
Is that a typo on the clomid?....5mgs or perhaps you meant 50mgs, which sounds more reasonable.
Proviron is a nice addition as well, Love It!....Tried, tested & proved to be an amazing compound!
My trt is Clomid ed @ 50mgs, and It's doing a lot so far, been taking it steadily for almost 4 months now, will give it a break next month when I start my cycle and definitely going back on it after pct. If I find it doesn't work, then I guess It's time for me to start real trt with test.
Relate to you in the quality of sleep I'm getting lately, vivid dreams and don't feel tired throughout the day.
Thanks for sharing your experiences and Best of luck mate!
Not a typo. 5 mg every other day a few times a week and I'm good to go. If I stop it, my BOYS get pulled in very tight and shrink unbelievably. I don't use a high dose of it because it will raise my testosterone levels way too high. And will make me weep watching sad movies. Haha
Some guys might disagree, but this is what works best for me. I've never felt better in my life.
Nice!! So is the clomid a substitute for hcg?
Yes the Clomid is a substitute for HCG. HCG gives me the worst side effects one can imagine at any dose. I don't need an AI with my TRT as long as I avoid it.
Pardon me for asking CP, but what kind of sides (just for my education) thanks man