Help with a fat loss cycle. Need advice.
Hi there. Looking for some advice on fat loss cycle. Maybe put on 5 lbs of lean muscle.
age 42
6'0
255
bf 17%
been lifting for 25 years or so.
this is my fourth cycle. First. Deca/ sustenon...I ran eq/ test prop for second. 3rd. test prop / tren ace/ masteron.
this is what i have planned now.
seemed like i kept the most on the EQ and test prop cycle 600mg eq wk and 150mg eod prop.
Tren works good, I just don't like the respiratory problems associated with it
Eq 500mg wk
test E 600 wk
primo 500 wk
deca 250 wk
16 week cycle
heavy lifting and cardio 4x week
Body Opus diet while on.
should i scrap the deca or keep it for joint health?
Is primobolan worth it or just run something like masteron?
Are my dosages good? Up or down? Im a "less is more "fan
Im already 255 so i don't want to balloon up 30 pounds like my first sus/ deca cycle.
Not looking to be at 290 in the gym.....lol
Would like to be about 235 at 10%
Any advice would help. THanks.
I will be taking some aromisin during cycle. I know all the PCT stuff.
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There isnt anything better for fat loose then a very clean diet,No drugs will do what a diet will do.
i think it would be economical to drop the primo for masteron if you keep your cycle. here is what i recommend for where you want to go:
Test 500mg wk
Deca 900mg wk
Anavar 50mg daily
You may need an anti- e if you struggle with retaining water. The deca for the joints at an older age is a blessing. I am advocate of keeping androgens lower than anabolics in dose when you want to look leaner and harder and not mixing so much when it is not needed into a cycle. btw that is a ton of cardio and can be reduced if your diet is clean. just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the advice. Im going to drop the Primobolan too.
Running Test E 600mg PW and Equipoise 500Mg PW.......16 week cycle.
Anavar is overrated in my book and high dose Deca like that will make me blow up to 300lbs. Yes, its nice benching 495 for reps, but I'm looking to go doooooooooown in weight.
(maybe) run the Primobolan for the last 8 weeks........maybe.
Again, thanks for the advice.
Thanks for all the advice. I will drop the deca.
Thanks for the workout advice sgt., unfortunately i work about 60 hrs per week, so my workout time is very limited, (not to mention my gym closes at 11pm.) Im not really a "morning person" and i get off work around 8 or 830 pm....so.....I am going to start hiking on one of my "off" days so thanks. Did plenty of those workouts in the military (army)....but i did ETS in march of 1992.....a little too hardcore for me now.
Will be doing the three intense lifting days plus another three days of cardio (plus one hiking day).
Again, thanks for all your help. Be good to each other.
sgtstedankoThank you... If your knees can still take the abuse. Nothing better, IMHO, than the sprinting outline (right below the plank portion of my post) make sure 1st thing in the morning on an empty stomach fat burn cardio... Have a good one, brother. Sorry about hijacking your thread w/the arguing.
No worries, thanks for the advice !!
sgtstedankoOh brother. You seem to have been doing this long enough to know. Your cycle sucks dick! You can't just throw compounds together, & expect them to do the work, brother... In proper order. DIET, Calorie deficit. Hard Cardio, till you throw up 5 days per week. Intense workouts in a gym 3 days per week, utilizing 5 second to raise & lower weight rule... . If I were you. I would honestly. Do this. I really think just about everyone should 1st... Anyway. Do this with nothing but a lower dose of testosterone of choice (350), I would go with prop... Do this for a couple of months, or so...
PT: Every Other Day
Pullups, 100 reps (10 sets of 10 reps)
Pushups, 300 reps (15 sets of 20 reps)
Situps, 500 reps (10 sets of 50 reps)
2 times per week, 2,000 meters swim
1 day per week, swim wearing your clothes and boots for 100 meters
Always, before your run/sprint mornings; Do 24 ea of body weight squats, lunges, jump lunges, alternating legs. Jump squats, then hold a reg plank for 1 min, 1st, then Rest for up to 5 min before your Sprint, &/OR run.
4 times per week: Sprint as long as you can, as fast as you can, until you can't sprint any longer. Immediately stop, drop to the ground & do as many mountain climbers as you can in 45 seconds. Jump up to your feet, continue sprinting, at the next stop, do as many slow motion wide pushups as you can in 45 seconds (holding in the hardest position for 5 seconds), alternating w/ slow mo, & ballistic forms of pushups (reg, military, wide, etc, etc, etc) @ each stop from sprinting. For at least 10 minutes
Afterwards, Immediately go to some sort of Combat Conditioning & Self Defense/Martial art class.
Five times per week: Run 3-5 miles as fast as you can. Absolutely no longer than 35 min for 5 mile run. If it takes you longer, Immediately drop & Do 50 pushups as fast as you can. Spring to your feet & stand at attention. No Movement, eyes front for at least 2 minutes, if you wipe away sweat, a mosquito, fly, ANTYTHING. Drop & do 25 pushups.
Do 1 set of pushups, chinups, & dips to failure; then run: 100 pullups in as few sets as possible Run 1/4 mile in 90 seconds in between sets of pullups
200 pushups in as few sets as possible, Run 1/4 mile in 90 seconds in between sets of push-ups
300 situps in as few sets as possible, Run 1/4 mile in 90 seconds in between sets of situps. Always try to beat your prev times...
Hold a pushup position plank (keeping your abs tight) for 5 min
Same days as Sprints (4 times per week): Do 1 body weight squat & 10 military pushups, rest for 30 seconds, & then do 2 squats & 9 standard pushups. Work your way up to 10 squats & down to 1 push up (alternating styles at each switch)
Add in balance training We've been doing this a lot lately! Place your knees / shins on a Balance ball, etc, etc, etc. Then use all the regular dumbbell exercises that you normally do while standing. Also use the ball as a bench and do your bench press/flies on it as well with dumbbells & barbell.
Saturday & Sunday: Pyramids
Go Up the Pyramid:
Step 1: 1 pullups/2 pushups/3 situps (Mix in Dips same as pushups)
Step 2: 2 pullups/4 pushups/6 situps
Step 3: 3 pullups/6 pushups/9 situps (Your 1st few sets are a warmup)
Step 4: 4 pullups/8 pushups/12 situps
Step 5: 5 pullups/10 pushups/15 situps
Step 6: 6 pullups/12 pushups/18 situps
Now go down the pyramid:
Step 5: 5 pullups/10 pushups/15 situps
Step 4: 4 pullups/8 pushups/12 situps
Step 3: 3 pullups/6 pushups/9 situps (Finish cool down)
Step 2: 2 pullups/4 pushups/6 situps
Step 1: 1 pullups/2 pushups/3 situps
Always add Dips: I do the same # of dips as pushups.
20 mile hike w/70lb pack (Cross country) Maximum of 5 hours
When you're done w/hike, Run 100 yd
Hit the rack:
Lather, rinse, repeat...
After you're body has adjusted to the new gruelling schedule you've kept for the previous two months, or so. Switch it up by doing this workout plan, adding in 600mg of your EQ. & also, maybe an oral like var @80, for the end of cycle, up till pct... I hope this helps you. I guarantee, that if your follow this. Taking it slowly at 1st, you will vote for me for president... Have fun
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AnonAnavar only cycle will put 5-15lbs on you of LEAN HARD muscle.
I'd say run a low test p + anavar cycle for 6-8 weeks.
Anavar wont dry your joints out like winny.
sgtstedankoLook dickhead... You're 20! On your 1st cycle? If I remember correctly. Don't offer this kind of BS, around here. This shit might fly on other boards, NOT HERE! Var only will pack on 15 pounds!? Yeah Right. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AnonVar + Test at maintenance level. You're the fool if you think I was talking var only cycle. No steroid should be taken without test as a base. I also said 5-15lbs (notice how 15lbs is the high end) depending on his cycle history, age, time spent lifting, diet..etc. You're just some dumb hick, probably all loaded up on tren, stuck in his ignorance of age and correlation to knowledge. I am 20, yes. Hows It feel knowing I'm in college for a PHD (on academic scholarship btw) AND making atleast your income. Which i assume Is 60-70k.. if your lucky. So congrats! By the time Im your age I will have accomplished more than you have. You mad bro? Take it up with me on the PM's. Im not about to feed your inner troll on the public boards. Besides, he asked a question and he wants an answer, not some unrelated shit talking.
sgtstedankoHahahahahahahahaha! Just what we need around here. Yet another dumbshit little kid, that thinks he's special. You got my income right. Not a hick though... & you did not say any test, you said var only.
Anon"I'd say run a low test p + anavar cycle for 6-8 weeks."
I assume that everyone knows that oral only (without test) cycles are retarded and thus are not practiced. I'm sorry that I need to be so clear with you around. You're choosing to recognize one statement in my post but not the statement of which immediately follows and contradicts your whole argument of my 'lack of knowledge because I am so young'. I'm also sorry that you resent someone feeling special about themselves. It appears to me that you must have stopped believing in yourself long ago, or perhaps you simply never did believe in yourself & never strived to be "special". I figure you work with your hands. Mind appears closed and set on its ways, which is called ignorance and commonly found in people who dont exercise their mind. You lack interpersonal perception (you fail to see things from anothers shoes). The way you see things in your mind is the only way they can be seen and thus your beliefs are (in your own mind) righteously correct and all else is ludicrous. Which is why you are continuously trying to bash me.. instead of just.. minding your own business. You're not open-minded. Your mind has ceased to grow and so have you (as a person). Ps: Control your impulses, self dicipline is not just making yourself do things you dont want to do, its also making yourself not do the things you want to do. You want to bash me for my age. Im not going anywhere. So exercise some self-discipline and dont speak.
sgtstedankoI Pm'd you little boy. I'd also be willing to offer you my full salary, for a year. If you join the army. Try for ranger school, etc. The world needs me, more than it needs young sparkytards, like you. In closing. Fuck you, you fucking fuck! Hahahahahahahahaha!!! You are a 20 year old, know nothing know it all. Like most kids your age : ( good luck in life. I'm the man, your daddy hoped & dreamed you'd be. Before you crushed his dreams. btw
AnonWhy would I do that when my income is the same as yours (if not higher, $73k last year) and increasing every year? Makes no sense. My father is a Stanford grad. He'd be disappointed if I joined the Army (I'm dead serious, I've been at the Army stage in my life and he wasn't happy). Congrats you can take a bullet and find a way to be proud and find honor in that. I have different dreams, you know, like helping others, changing the world, those kind of dreams. I dont dream of being some macho tough-guy ahole who continuously has to prove himself. I'm beyond that, I want to leave the biggest impact possible before I die. I want my work to live on in others long after I die. So as you can see, we are just on two different pages. 2 different minds. I see yours, you cant see mine unfortunately.
Ok boy i have been going threw your posts and im not liking your attitude. We do not need twenty year old kids running around this board giving out bad advice. No one here is going to give you the ok to run any form of AAS at 20, if you were half as smart as you so desperately try and perceive, you would know this. If you wish to last here much longer i suggest you change your attitude, stop disrespecting our vets and most importantly stop running gear.
smh
tread-mDifference in being at the army stage in your life and defending the freedom of your country so you can go after your dreams is very different . Both important but yours cannot happen without the other. You made a mistake in your very first sentence with a var only cycle...just look up. its fine, you corrected yourself . I see your point but you are now interupting a thread that does not belong to you. If you enjoy the site and or have an appreciation for it I would move along now. Nothing left to be said.
Drop the deca for another cycle. Otherwise looks ok. Some say run the primo at 600....
Primo shows up best if bf is below 10%......but if your eating is dead on.