Micktoon's picture
Micktoon
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2025

Blast n cruise protocol/ thoughts

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As you can see I'm a complete newb here so apologies if this is a dumb question.

I've been lifting for 30 years on and off, since I was 14 ish. I took the decision to try peds last year for the first time. Firstly done test e 300mg a week, then test plus dbol 40mg a day. Now on test and deca, 600mg and 300mg deca. Just a quick run down of where I'm at.

My main confusion comes with the right dose to use when cruising? I realise it's a personal choice and I was thinking 150mg to 200mg a week. Having said that I've seen people claiming to cruise on 300 to 400mg a week on various forums!? Just wondering if anyone has found the sweet spot?

Also any one incorporating deca into there trt for therapeutic purposes? Any info is much appreciated cheers!

0newheelup's picture

Hey brother. Is there a particular reason u are deciding to cruise? Cruise is not a free ride.. Anyone cruising at 300+per wk is cycling (Do Not Do This), this is no hormone therapy... If u cruise u shld still be doing ur bloodwork to monitor ur health just as a doctor wld do. U want ur body to relax, so u find that sweet spot usually 150-200mg, everyone is different. At our age it's better to be under a doctor's supervision. Cruising can get out of hand quickly. Especially throwing other compounds into ur cruise..

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Zalewski's picture

Use blood test to determine a correct dose, make your testosterone levels in the normal range. I guarantee morherfuckers on 300-400 have weak shit or test levels +1600 probably, which isn’t cruising. Aim for a test level around 800

IrishMack's picture

Are you a doctor? Because you have no idea who this person is or their health. Why are you cosigning someone to put themselves on a life sentence? Do you honestly think you just helped this person? You didn't. He should be aiming for a doctor to do full blood tests not some stranger on the internet giving terrible advice.

Halsey's picture

Mack, I'm the only person on this site that i know who actually gets there Testosterone (trt)through an actual gp. I was diagnosed with primary failure at the age of 42, never used any sarms or any anabolics prior to this. I get an actual prescription and get it filled at Walmart. I was actually very hesitant to start trt, I researched and studied prior to making that leap. I wasnt looking for anything from my gp, it was his recommendation.

I know most people here self prescribe or go to a mens health clinics(money grab and can be very unsafe). I try not to overstep my place on any kind of cosigning or giving advice I shouldn't. I eat a clean diet, workout hard, post all my bloodwork, I'm pretty transparent and real. I'm not a body builder but more interested in overall health and mental wellness. One thing I have learned, all doctors are not created equal. Typically gps or even endos really are not upto speed on current protocols or how to treat hypogonadism. Lots of old school teachings out there. Regardless of who you see, each person needs to educate themselves.

IrishMack's picture

I also see an actual endo and there are a few here that do as well. My issue is not that you do it correctly. We have to realize that anything you write here either the op or someone else will take it to heart and skip the doc. What works for you may not work for someone else but they don't care, they want a cosign. I think the issue is everyone is looking for the fist bump, karma in this sites case so they parrot info and/or give advice without even thinking looking for approval to strangers they never met before. There are hundreds of not more sites dedicated to trt and it's protocols. Anytime someone here asks for trt advice I am instantly sceptical because let's be honest, this is a bodybuilding/powerlifting/gym head site, with one forum for trt. I am a member of a few true trt only websites and anyone that joins and starts asking about self administering get told the same thing, NO and see a doctor. Lately here people are more than happy to not even think of what they are doing and the consequences of that action. Disguising a post with "I don't recommend you do this, but if you are going to here is complete details how to do it." It's just rationale thinking my man. I've been given bad advice before on many occasions that almost killed me and fucked me up. It's part of the reason I am an asshole when it comes to things I see. I wish someone was a dick to me before I ended up in the hospital those times.

Halsey's picture

I get you Mack, I appreciate the response.

TRTdude's picture

You don't aim for specific numbers. You need to be within the reference range (which varies from lab to lab), and at a level where you feel good with no side affects.
Numbers are there for a reference, they don't gonna tell you how you feel.

Zalewski's picture

The main reason I said 800 was that you can feel good at 1600 and 800, but it doesn’t mean both work. I say aim for 800 because usually that’s where people tend to feel good without just taking more cause they can. But you are right, all of this is personalized at the end of the day. Like IFBB pros probably cruise on double that amount but it works because they’re twice the size of a regular person

Halsey's picture

I think he was generalizing, he said run blood work first. I personally like 140mg/week =900 to 1100 total, which with blood work and my doctor's blessing works for me. This is a bit over the top reference range.

The trick is to find a protocol( smallest test mg a week)that doesn't require an ai, doesn't affect bloodwork/bp, and alleviates symptoms.

IrishMack's picture

You should no better than cosigning this shit. What is this site becoming?

Halsey's picture

I was aiming my answer at TRT dude and Z not the op, And this is not a cosign, this is more of a HOW TO on dialing in a DR PRESCRIBED protocol. I worked with my GP(UNDER his care/BLOODWORK) on dialing this shit in for myself for several months.

SL's picture

Yes! I like 150mg week, ai’s are harsh. Gotta dial in that sweet spot

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