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any Dinosaurs & Old Bastards in this Group? :)

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looking through here in 'Dinosaur Lounge, Old Bastards Group & TRT Specific Talks' it seems there's far more TRT going on than cycling.. so I simply add one post in this direction, maybe it hits someones' nerve..

I'm an older guy in UK who starts using gear again after the last roids 16 years ago (mostly jabs)

I never forget the first days/workouts on dBol; nothing liek the first time; as with lots of things in life, eh.

There were no ugls' around these days, nor there was an internet ;) ..if someone wanted more in-depth knowledge, there were a few books (the paper ones, you know) around; nothing else.

We had to look for stuff around the gym, no other places - pharma gear was all to get back then, involving the problem that fakes were everywhere, suppose 2 third were fakes. No gear test labs either to makes things worse..you relied on the bros in the gym, what they took you took. period.

Then there were the blessed ones, who had a buddy being either a vet, a doc or a pharmacist...they were settled (supply- and money-wise) - and had lots of gym guys queuing up to be friends ;)

Back to me, I had a back injury in '07 which had me pausing heavy lifting, so now back on track again.

Simply out of couriosity, as the years made me patient Smile am piling up for a longer, mixed, oral stack; before later on going back to injections.

Bloodworks first; just to see where it starts and where it goes...as said, am curious and my approach always has been a bit more scientific, out of interest.

Hope others are in the same situation and interested in this post; something else than TRT after all (...though a lot of guys I know would call this stack TRT ..and rightly so ..lol)

Cheers from UK

randys52's picture

63, lost 100 lbs, got muscled thanks to Eroids and a lot of damn hard work. 51? You are still in puberty...:)

Freeze's picture

1 you should indeed update your stats when it comes to answering your questions it will be easier to give advice.if your diet is on point and you have been training then I would say blood work then TRT for a good starter then A basic Test cycle is great. Again, no stats so if your obese and have a history of health issue then this isnt your place.

thingschangesbeyond50's picture

Thanks for your input, yes of course your're right - just orals would be pointless. The Axis is damn important.

Doss's picture

I'm not a Dino, of course but I am slave to the pin courtesy of a fucked up axis. A lot of poor decisions made along the way, as I'm sure most can relate.. This is a good place to gain in terms of knowledge, understanding, and support. So, welcome..

If you're like myself, and I sense that you are, you're not going to base your decisions solely on what others tell you. So, I'll leave you with this: the oral only will without a doubt cause you more longterm harm than good. As you dig into that idealology, you'll begin to uncover some facts that will help you see that on your own, and I'm sure you will come across plenty along the way that will reinforce this.

Wish you the best of luck.

irongame427's picture

Im not oever 40 or anything but i will say this. The typical beginner cycle today is test only for 10-12 weeks with proper ancillaries and pct, not a stack of orals or even 1 oral with no test. Idk if that was the beginner cycle back ? The test only cycle has less sides, less impact to the body and the gains will be 100 times better then any oral only cycle.

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