posted Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:05
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withdrawing off opiates FML
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So i have found myself addicted to opiates. It doesnt matter how and i would appreciate no criticism. I completed a cycle about 6 months ago and lost most of my gains due to injury and overall lack of motivation. I want more than anything away from this devil. Im no novice to withdrawal but i was wondering about starting a cycle to help with it. Ive got some test p test e and winny. I just want to get better and back to the person i was. Please help. Its embarassing to even post this shit on here but i gotta get my size, energy, and life back. Withdrawal will be starting in t-minus 6 hrs.
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CleyonThat be one big pack from BigD! Just keep checking in, let it out. I wouldn't worry too much about going to work, take a couple days off if you need to. And then once it's all over go on a week long vacation somewhere nice!
i lost 1000$ by not working today. cant do that anymore. i make too much money not to work. on top of that i have a business to run. and people that want my job at the other place i work at. No rest for the wicked. maybe vaca in a month or 2 when it slows down but i gotta crank out the hours and keep my equipment running and on site and working. if im not there its not there.
CleyonI definitely understand that, keep your head up and don't stretch yourself too thin while your going through this mini nightmare. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, you know that.
CleyonMan, you need that support system! See if you can find an NA meeting as soon as you're mobile. That's the only way you'll make it through this long term.
I wish! I work full time and run a full time business in the oil field and that shit does not stop pumping for anything. I dont have time to go to na/aa and fuck that shit. I just wanna be off opiates and jacked on juice lol. I work at least 12 hrs a day. If im not on the clock for one job im fixing a piece of equipment for my business. Sometimes people just have to do it on their own. Its hard but what can u do? Either keep shooting dope and have nothing or stop and have everything i ever wanted. Fuck man im stronger than this fuck shit. At least i hope so...
I used to be a heroin addict, so I know what your going through. Just push through the withdrawal then get back in the gym asap. I know withdrawal sucks, I had to be hospitalized on one occasion it was so bad. Stay away from people who use, and get back in the gym.
Hope you made it through the night brotha. From my experience getting clean is a looooong process. If smoking and popping xan gets you off the h, do it. Then you'll know you can handle kicking. Then you stop taking the xan, cuz you know you can handle kicking. I won't say then the weed cuz if you wanna smoke then smoke (I still do, but I'm not also fully through the process). Worst case scenario you end up trading addictions, but atleast you tried. Also, don't rule out suboxone. Shit is a miracle drug, you may have to stay on it for awhile (years) but its better than the alternative, and once you've fixed the problems in your life that make you use it's easy to taper off.
JB, was addicted to pain meds for 14 yrs. My wife stuck by me through hundreds of thousands of dollars and when I woke up one day I went to a club that met once a week and you met with a Dr during that weekly meeting. I was prescribed Soboxone and my life changed for the better. I've ran 4 AAS cycles since kicking the habit. (3.5 yrs ago) steroids ARE ADDICTING! Keep your shit together run pct like you should and start over. Good luck mate!
Man I'm a dope fiend, like I would shoot dope all damn day and night if it didn't have any negative effects. Fact is it does. I did the same thing you are wanting to. It was my first time on gear. I lasted 5 weeks, then I was back off to the fuckin races. You need to focusing on picking your ass up and getting your shit together, not thinking about what you look like and how much you weigh. Fuck that shit. Unless you wanna look good in a casket, it's not going to make a difference.
AnonMan, I was going to reply but what you said is sooo much better than what i was going to say. I hope he listens to you
Soo... i hit the gym sat in the sauna for 20 min. Fuck man the ride hasn't even started yet. Idk i still wanna pin a couple cc of prop. Fuck man who knows how its going to go. I havent gone 4 hrs without slamming a load in about 3 months.and before that snorting pills. I make a lot of money and im spending it all on dope and im tired of it. Shit. Ill smoke a bud and take half a bar. See what happens....
Wish I saw this before I posted. Smoke bud and take half a bar? Fuck it man let me be the first to tell you you're not gonna make it.
I dont wanna use anything at all. But i gotta sleep. Without anything i couldnt function. I own a buisness where i work 12 hr a day 7 days a week. I have to do this and keep my schedule. Fuck bro pot is one of the best :things you can do for wd.
Alprazalam is given at medical detoxes and ill smoke weed till i die. You try and kick heroin and see how it feels. Thanks for the support faggo
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I've done a lot of dope as well. I know what you're going through.
Well damn kickjng with nothing sucks. Imodium saves your ass. Pun intended. Xanax makes you sane and possibly sleep. Seriquill WILL make u sleep. Pot keeps your mind off it. Jesus christ i wanna ease the shit not kill myself. You said youre no stranger to it and ive fucked around once or twice. I hate benzos but they serve a purpose. I love pot. Since i was like 12. It is what it is. It didnt fucking start with a rig ive been playing with this shit since i was a kid. You were selling to support your habit i did 4 years in prison for trafficking dope to support mine. Its a whole differnt ball game when u get locked up and go for it. When your free it sucks. I have a grand in my pocket and all the dope i want 5 min away. So yes i am going to take a half of bar, well whole bar now, and smoke some bud. Thanks man you know ur shit!
I was a addict the hardest part is the mental effects but they will pass now I'm a beast without drugs (mind alternating ) lol but when ur sober u find urself u mite loose all ur confidence but u will get it back drugs is just a big mask over real life
Get some subs aka suboxone your cured it helps with the physical sides of opiates go ur doctor or u can get them the street
Not even gonna pretend to know what you're going through. Just want to say be strong and good luck homey. There's a lot of guys on here that have been through similar situations. Don't be afraid to reach out to them for help. Take care bro.
Oh and another thing...(as you stated in your post).
There is nothing to be embarrassed about posting or asking questions concerning addiction! You never know who could be needing to read it.
DO NOT START A CYCLE!! I'm not talking bro science either.
Your body is not in a balanced state. As difficult as it may sound homeostasis need to be reached. Your chemoreceptor, hormones and neurotransmitters are all over the place. Cycling affects all of these and you will seriously retard your recovery efforts. My friend fight throught it and get your legs beneath you. After you reach a point of somewhat stability, its time to assess the damage done by your opiate use( long and short term).
I speak to you as a healthcare professional who had to watch people go through this. I can't tell you how it feels to be in your shoes. BUT!! I can tell you how it is from the outside looking in brother. The most varying and off the chart lab work I ever seen was from a withdrawl pt. This pt prolactin level was so high, we had to do a CT to ensure it wasn't a tumor near his pituritary.
Please brother use all your help resources. The road will be hard while your body heals. Work on healing your mind and spirit. I'll be pushing for you..as far as the AAS is concerned...CRUSH THEM NOW and get yourself back first.
BEST OF LUCK!
Im going to try and kick ct but i have some xanax on hand and seriquil. Idk about suboxone. I want to be substance free. Subox wd is like 2 months. I can do a couple weeks from the h
Stay strong...shuts bout to get rough!
But afterwards you will feel that feeling of elation and joy in your gut
The feeling of pleasure from everyday activities
This won't come quickly but it will come
About 3-5-7 days are the worst
Then it gets better each day!
Suboxone and methadone will only delay your ultimate goal of being off any opiates although if you believe you need a maintainance drug then you may want to contact an addiction doctor
Hang in there dude and remember why your doing this
Whatever the reason is ...remember that you want it more than you want the drug
And the feeling of wanting to drug of needing it like water ...is an illness and you can be free from the grasp if you push hard enough and make it through!
You got this dude!
Prep a cycle for after your clean bc you will have lost alot of weight from withdrawal
Stay hydrated ...you need to hydrate now!!!
I don't know what you have access to
But
Clonidine ,gabapentin, benedryl , tramadol ,trazadone, alprazolam all help alot with withdrawal ...they are all prescriptions from a MD though and some are addictive themselves
If you go to the ER they will help you come off with comfort meds listed above !!!
Something to think about !
Fr sent bro im just gettin thru almost the same shit and feel as tho i could help ya out
DON'T start a cycle- I did that a couple yrs ago when i got clean and i was withdrawing...i swear to god it made it worse for some reason. What saved me, was first of all my willpower and dedication to wanting to be clean, but a major help was Suboxone...a lot safer and less addictive than Methadone (I've used both) and Suboxone was the one that finally got me clean. If you don't mind withdrawing and you think you'll be OK with cravings then go cold turkey ... Truth is tho, 95% of us addicts relapse unless there is some sort of program to help us. My program was the Suboxone Maintenance and i owe my life in part to that. You literally feel completely normal, like you did before opiates came into your life. It's great to wake up daily and be able to walk outside with a smile on your face, go to work, workout, all feeling normal and the best part- NO cravings. I'm not trying to push this on you though, you need to do what you feel is right for you, I don't know your exact situation. Another huge help on top of the Suboxone was my therapist...She is a Psychiatrist with a PH.D specializing in addiction, and here we are 2 years later still talking and friends now. She helped a lot through every struggle I've had over 2 yrs..she knows I cycle and she's actually cool with it. What your dealing with sucks bro I really do feel for you, I hate fucking opiates they destroy lives, I know its "us" that decided to take them but shit man i wish they weren't so easy to get. Whatever you do - DON'T relapse...think about the advice I just gave you and make a decision on how your gonna do this
Good advice brother! I was opposite of you the I kept relapsing when I was on subs and finally switched to the methadone which saved my life but now I'm dosing off of it which isn't bad now I only have a couple more months to go but I wish I would have been strong enough to just ride out the dope sickness. Cuz now when I finally go from 1mg a day to 0mg a day the withdrawals will last 4-6 months f ing sucks but now I'm mentally strong enough and have too much to loose so I know I will make it. Can't wait to be 100% sober. Was on 6-8 80mg oxy a day for 5 years done days would do 12 if I could get my hands on enough money so my withdrawals sucked real bad and now on my 3rd year of methadone not 1 relapse in that time but my body is dependent in this stupid shit. It did save my ass tho.
I was in the same boat as you bro! I started the methadone clinic and it helped me get my life back and mentality of being off dope but now I'm in the boat of dosing off my methadone and when I'm finally off the withdrawals will last 4-6 months from that shit and now I'm wishing I would have just rode out the h withdrawals for two weeks and been done. Although the aas will help with nutrition your mindset is in an addictive phase right now. So focus on getn better than getn shredded later. Gym is going no where. Good luck my man.
fellow heroin addict here, and have been clean for 4 years, at least from that. i would suggest getting through it without using steroids, and then afterwards going on cycle. If you are actually physically addicted to opiates, i could not even fathom being able to make it into the gym with being that dopesick. Hang in there bro, but i wouldnt suggest starting a cycle until you got a couple weeks under your belt or at least a week. Smoking weed helped for me. Just my 2 cents and suggestion. either way, good luck, you can do it. stay up.
I know i wont be able to go to the gym for the next few days. More like roll out of my sweaty bed and kick out a few push ups. Im just wondering if my test is low and i go ahead and throw some prop in there and it may help with low test symptoms which are also symptoms of wd. Not the physical part. Im going to shit my fucking brains out, no sleep, hurt legs, yada yada. But it may help with being depressed and the mood shit that follows weeks after. Physical withdrawal is inevitable but the depression that follows is kinda what scares me. Im tough ill make it through the kick but fuxk. I wanna be me again.
CleyonOk, I'm going to preface this by saying I have no experience with opiates thank God. I hope that you can conquer this demon and get your life back.
While I don't know that their would be any damaging physiological effect to starting a steroid cycle as you go through withdrawals, is worry that you'd be transferring some of the emotional psychological dependency onto the steroids. In a perfect world that's what I would think was ideal. I'd hate for you to get down the road and feel like you hadn't made the change yourself, but had it given to you by steroids and therefore relapse.
Homie dont start a cycle until you have fully kicked. I was in prison for years shooting H. That sh-- is the Devil, bro just get clean exercise to help push the toxins out of your body, then when you no longer have an urge to use pick up that cycle. My advice is until you have gotten yourself totally under control stay away from the gear.