The evolution of street fighting
I think for the most part street fights and bar fight have evolved for the better. I think with the popularity of the UFC and other cage fighting venues people have schooled themselves somewhat in the art of street fighting. I’m not saying that watching UFC makes a mana better fight, I’m just saying people are somewhat aware of techniques that work possibly a little better than the did back in the day.
I would even submit that your average Joe fights a little better than the average Joe did 30 years ago.
What does everyone think about that?
I’m not saying everyone can now fight because they watched Jon Jones tapes. He’ll no. I do think there is an evolution.
One tool though that I think is getting lost in the mix and I don’t think that I’ve seen it used in a street fight in a while is the head butt.
I think a good head butt is an absolutely Brutal tool. We don’t see it in the UFC any more or in Pride fighting, I think because it is so effective....
Just random thoughts. What does everyone think about that?
All my love no homo
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I use my head... and have managed to avoid fights.
You must have your boat in a slip. The launches are always prime for some action lol
Lol. I love boat dock drama.
jayiskor your firearm.. ;}
Only second to the headbutt but also brutal is the elbow/forearm smash. But yes I agree. Which is why I at least keep training on mostly the speed bags and a little heavy.Most of these dudes haven't even thrown a punch in years or sometimes ever in a fight. But like said below cauliflower ears are a sign of impending doom lol. I also have a crooked nose so that is also a sign lol
First rule of fight club Ed
Lol. I am only schooled in the rules of no homo. Therefore can freely speak of fightclub.
What about no homo fight club.
You are Definitely right about a good headbutt being absolutely brutal if done properly pal lol
About 10 years ago I was stood talking to one of my pals at the local car meet with my GF in tow, my pal who was a well built 230's ish guy had been gobby online with this skinny kid. Rumour had it the skinny kid was gonna do him over which everyone laughed about! Next thing this car rolls up and out stomps this 150lb kid who ya just though was gonna do F'all - storms right up to my mate head goes full tilt back and Booooomm! F**k me I have never seen anything like it, everyone froze in shock and just stood there. Including my pal laid out on the floor unable to see with streaming eyes and half his nose splattered across his face. He literally took about 5 minutes to see and come round, was panicking and everything - the sheer crack and crunch from it will stay with me as long as I live. The most cringe worthy thing I have ever seen. People respected the little guy quite a bit more after that Lmao .....
Nothing surprises like a well placed headbut lol.
jayiskstreets fights basically was just squaring off and boxing..,or trying to. And if it ended up on the ground they didnt no what to do.
loved watching two drunken clowns take 10 minutes to take their shirts and gold chains off before the actual fight started.
in a street fight/ bar fight i find it best to make a quick decision of is this going to end in violence..,and if not just walk away. and if it turns into a fight you want to quickly throw the most harmful strike you can that will inflect the most damage., do it fast and be first to do it. krav maga type shit.
Sometimes in a bar fight you are better off dropping a bomb and jogging home.
jayiskYup, drop the dude and take off with his girl...lol
Posturing has definitely evolved! There are more peacocks out there these days than the old days!
Lol definitely peacocks and not eagles
Curious if peacocks warrants a no homo? Don't want to be caught off guard. No homo.
As far as street fights nothing like punching a guy in the throat and then fish hooking the shit outa him while hes choking and gasping for air at the same time.
Lol. Nothing like a good fishhook to finish the job
Peacock is borderline. But still in the safe zone.
jayiskIs a Peacock where you jam your thumb in their panic button and they freeze up...no homo.
talked to some kid in the gym the other day and said in High School wrestling there was one team that was known for jamming their thumbs in the other dudes ass to try and win the match.
Damn. I’ve never heard it called a peacock.
Middle eastern wrestlers try that shit all the time. Try and find a match on YouTube where someone is wrestling An Iranian and the Iranian starts losing.
jayiskEd i was actually asking if that was called a peacock.., as i have no idea wtf a peacock in fighting is?...lol
am i looking on youtube or porntube for this type of wrestling ;}
I would have to agree that the fighting on tv/internet has at least on a subliminal level affected the way people fight.
for the most part though your average Joe still has no clue how tiring and painful a real fight is nor how to fight , i.e wild sloppy punches for the most part.
your right though head butts are fkn brutal , me personally though I like a good smash to the throat that will put anyone down.
Watch an old western fight scene. That shit is hilarious.
Head butts and elbows, not usually seen in a basic scuffle but if they are they usually end it lol.
True dat
Most people still fight like absolute garbage. Wild hooks, no blocking, and comes down to luck/brute strength. I will say inmates fight better than your average joe in a tap out shirt, but that’s more from years of experience and necessity. I did get to see a great head butt in the gang unit, skinny hells angel guy head butted the shit out of a crip, rollin 60s I think. Broke the crips nose and split his lip.
I think a lot of people really get surprised when they square off against a wrestler, or a boxer or a kickboxer etc. that’s when they realize that the tap out shirt that they bought didn’t do them any good.
Fighting 101 right there, gotta read your opponent and feel out what he’s working with. I’m no expert, but it’s easy enough to read the signs, is he crouching low looking like he’s gonna shoot for the legs, bouncing on his toes bout to kick your head off, squared up with thumbs on his cheekbones, or just your average dude who watched the latest UFC fight on PPV and thinks his arms are lethal weapons now.
Always look at the ears. If the ears are balled up and looking shitty...you might be better off buying that guy a beer. Lol.
jayiskcauliflower ears or if you look like a professional hockey player i am def. buying you drinks and making friends..lol
Very true! Also, “never fight an ugly man, they have nothing to lose”.
jayiska lot of times looking at some peoples eyes you can just tell they have been through some shit by that look they have.
worst thing you can do is underestimate anyone. just cause someone is big doesnt mean shit. the 150lb guy may have been Thai kickboxing since he was 6 yrs old.
then some people are just fawking psychotic and go nuts. those are the ones it takes 6 or more cops to hold them down to break up the fight.
generally ive fought that since i stopped drinking and going to bars, clubs, being out late in the wrong area that the chance of someone starting a fight with me has gone down about 99%.
Being in my 40’s. Street fights are noooo where near bar fights. Ive seen pool sticks, cue balls, beer bottles, nose biting, stools all being used. So a bar fight is nowhere near a street fight where im from..
you will see a young street punk with maybe some fighting skills but he has noooo idea what he is in for in a bar/ biker fight
This is good point.
jayiskYeah you wouldnt want to mess with a 1% biker club. they fight together and nasty. good chance of getting hit with a ball pein hammer at the least..lol
Lol. It’s probably good practice to keep the fight 1 on 1.
jayiskI wouldnt even stay in a bar for a minute. if i walked in and seen a bunch of patched members. i enjoy being able to chew solid food...lol
Achilles412Bro....these young cats have absolutely zero fighting skills. Street fights are pathetic they circle around one another like two alley cats in ridiculous stances talking shit then they close their eyes and throw their arms like wet noodles and if and that’s a big if connects some one screams world star and the punchee retreats to social media to continue the feud via shit talking posts. And then don’t forget the tough guys who clinch every muscle or pump up like a puffer fish and scream as loud as possible only to be put to sleep w the slightest contact to their chin. I like you I like what you wrote but this hurts my heart. You know what’s a lost art. Bring quite n just punching someone in the teeth.
Lol. It’s funny though, maybe kids aren’t as good as when I was young. Kids don’t really fight at school like we did. My kid doesn’t have near the fights that I had as a kid. Granted, I grew up poor so that makes a little difference. Lol
Achilles412Bingo! I grew up super poor. We fought to be cool. We fought to be tough. We fought to be popular and get laid it was like a must do to succeed in my area. Now kids just tweeter fight and Facebook brawl or whatever the fuck society does nowadays lol
jayiskin school everyone would wait until the end of the last class and meet up in the school grounds to watch a fight. everyone would be there.
now you cant not even hurt a kids Feelings and have to be sensitive and tolerant. No chance of a fight. Plus we have full time armed police officers, metal detectors, and cameras everywhere.
This kids are in for a rude awakening when they get out into the work force. Esp. if its in the corporate world. They will get eaten alive and run home crying to their parents. Setting them up for failure with all this pampering bullshit. Oh, and stop telling that life is fawking fair and if you are just a good person everything will be ok..
Achilles412But jayisk this generation is deserving of everything being handed to them. Why work hard when you deserve everything you want
jayiskthat is the ones with overprotective parents trying to fix and handle every problem their child has. Instead of letting them address it. Also everything is too P.C. which doesnt correlate in real life. And yeah your right even the ones without the overprotective parents have a sense of entitlement and they just deserve everything they want.., why should they have to work hard and actually accomplish anything on their own.
Sure when you busted your ass playing football you didnt get a Participation Trophy if your team lost....lol
Achilles412If I did get said trophy my pops would stuck it right up my ass for accepting it.