Dude.... one time and one time only did I help someone with a "first cycle". 4000000 questions later and too afraid to pin himself holy fk. Goes on the internet convinces himself he needs finasteride for his test only cycle when he's not even prone to MPB, omg I should be taking accutane now too even though I have like two zits on my entire body, decides the pharma aromasin I went out of my way to get for him is bad and he needs to go find proviron now midway through then on top of that goes and buys some random ass bunk NPP from some random ass guy at the gym and starts plugging away with that shit against my advice.... fking idiot. I swear his IQ dropped 30 points after the first pin I had no idea just how dumb he was. I ended up just telling him to go fuck himself - literally. Too much of a hassle it was a "friend" too so I didn't charge much of anything. Thought he needed more gear because he wasn't growing - motherfucker you've been doing the same workouts eating the same shit ass 2,000 calorie diet for 4 years thats why you won't grow.... uhg people man I swear. Lay it all out for them for free and it's worth nothing gotta charge them real $$$ if you expect them to heed your advice of any type. This is why not a soul I know nowadays knows I juice outside of speculation since it's very obvious, people really don't get that it's not just the gear.... pisses me off.

Not to mention the obvious safety reasons - only guy I've gotten anything for since then was recently and that's because he's an ex-NPC competitor. No hand holding needed and not LE.

I remember paying $150 for ONE bottle of mexican vet sust if memory serves me correct either way it was legit as least.... my first real cycle lol. One whole bottle of sust.

Blew right the fuck up too! funny to think about now