posted Wed, 06/19/2013 - 14:11
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LIttle Brother and AAS
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Geez.. If life couldn't get more crazy.. I stop off at my parents house last night and my mom mentions to me that my little 15 year old (5'6" 100lbs.) brother has been talking about steroids. Holy Hell!! I asked him what all this talk of steroids is about (he is a little smart ass) he says, I just wanna get fat. I literally laughed out loud. I knew he was giving me shit... little F*%^@# I didn't have time to talk with him about it last night... but I can't wait to have this talk with him. 
I will keep you all posted.. In the mean time.. what would you suggest to help him bulk up naturally?
http://www.eroids.com/pics/little-brother-trying-to-bulk-naturally
He knows better than to do somethig I tell him not to. He looks up to me like I am him mom.
Did any of you have trouble at this age.. wanting to be bigger because you were the smallest one out of all your friends? What did you do? What advice would you give the younger you?
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personally i think fear works ALMOST as good as pain for motivating youth in the right direction.
show him this video that will do the trick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDZUkbW6aEY
also i can relate i did all i could to fix it naturally i recommend wrestling at the high school
level the training still seems to be pretty harsh i still have stretch marks on my legs from all the
leg work we would do. i did that for 2 years and only managed to place 4th in regions but it bulked
me up enough and gave me the stamina to actually do well in other sports hockey football ect
think when i was 15 i was 120 and 5'6 after wrestling i was around 135-140 and that is with all the
cutting ect so lean gains and less fat
now that i think back to it i worked so hard for that 20 pounds of mass i almost want to say it was not worth it but still AAS at that age and i would have been pretty messed up now if i could turn back time the only thing i would do differently would be to spend my money on HGH instead of driving girls around like a taxi and spending money on girls then i could be a 7 foot tall giant ahh if only
Something is not right about that video but I can't put my finger on it
ahhh tren
"Did any of you have trouble at this age.. wanting to be bigger because you were the smallest one out of all your friends? What did you do?"
I went to the back of my comic books and ordered that book from Charles Atlas!
YES! But I used what I had to feel better about myself. Being so lean and with freakishly long limbs - I focused all my energy into sports. Primarily boxing. I loved it so much and got really good ,really fast that I didn't give a shit about being big anymore. I had all the confidence in the world after that. My friends that towered over me and were twice my size all looked up to me and came to me for help when they had drama. It felt good. But the real problem here is confidence. Not being big. Truth is it will be a terrible uphill battle for him. It was for me. It's so hard to put on any weight at all let alone muscle with that frame and genetics. Once he hits his peak, he will grow. But for now, he needs to build confidence. We are all good at something. He has to find somethin he loves and coils excel at! It will make him feel better than all the Muscle in the world could. Maybe mma or boxing? But he's got you as a big sister. I think he's gonna be fine. He's a good lookin kid too. Looks like you. ;-)
I recommend him getting bloods maybe theres something wrong with his test that hes that small at that age. I was in the exact same shoes, turned out my test was at the floor bottom so had test injections by doctor.
AnonI don't think it has to do with his test.
He just turned 15 last month and his mother and father are very small people. Mom is 5'2 and his dad is 5'7 
very small frames.
Very small people?? :( I'm 5'6 :(
AnonOk. Not very small.. but they are small compared to him I suppose.
Anonjoshing!! That's something I always said growing up.. lol! I will definitely see what i can get him into
So you're about my age, I'm 18 ;)
AnonIts always the smaller guy who aspires to be the biggest because you know what its like to be at the bottom of that pit, so you try and run away from it and aspire to get huge! Thats my experience anyway, and from what iv seen. Especially at this age its very easy to get tempted, just watch him and kick his ass if it looks suspicious like hes using
AnonI've got my eyes on him, and if they aren't there, I have other's eyes on him ;)
I just sent him a pack of Dbol. Hope that helps.
Good shit! I could use em! Thanks bro
hahah
LMFAO!
I ran into this all the tome with young men in the Navy trying to put on more muscle. Of course they were not 15 but the psychological aspects are all the same. Tread obviously has you covered as far as all things training and nutrition as I am sure Nitti does as well.
I am sure he probably looks up to Nitti. Fighter muscles etc, so he interprets if he can get the outside to where he wants it the inside confidence will come as well. That is always the main motivation is greater confidence to project strength and not weakness.
So my .02 would be that Nitti takes your brother under his wing then he will have a focal point and guide other than the obsession to do things the quick and possibly unsafe way. It is always good seeing siblings care so much for each other!
AnonTHank you Pank!! Will do
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinktread-mHe could only try to increase cals in a 7 meal day and work to be sure the meals are high in carbs and around 25 grams of protein per meal. At that age I would have carbs in all 7 meals.
As he does this and works to get around 5-6000 cals ed he can over a month see if he begins to gain weight. If not and if he has the qability, he begins to drive the total cals higher to find a place where the gains will begin.
If like Nitti or I in metabolic rate and sports there may actually be no gain period. I always played a school sport in addition to boxing so between football/baseball etc 6 days a week and boxing 6 days a week and running pavement 3 miles at night 6 days a week and metabolism my body could have burned 10k cals ed with ease! Much of that being like you hubby in that we have/had a very efficient metabolic function. Basically the type of high metabolism that looks at carbs and says "bring it bitchezzzzzzz!"
I'll say this, my body finally around 30 yrs old slowed just enough to where I could gain easier. Not real easy easier and its still the same today. I can cut for example more in a week trying than most people can in a month working the whole cut roll like crazy. Its genetics period and literally all he can do is work the total cals properly with more meals and I bet he's not doing that "properly".
No cures for the genetics but its fighting genetics at its own game and that's a numbers game.
All the gear does is create a higher abiility for protein synthesis and at that age his ability to create protein synthesis and his metabolic rate are already through th roof!
If it helps him at all, I grew 7 inches from my 15th birthday to my 16th birthday, stilll plenty of time for growth and high end production from puberty related huge hormone levels! This means its that we advise him to make diet 95% of his thoughts just like we do the younger guys here using steroids and not understanding the steroids themselves are not going to make you gain weight, its the interaction between the steroids and the equation of cals/carbs/total meals being his ability to have high end protein synthesis to occur is high and happens every 2 hrs. That's why he needs to try and eat every 2 hours, it drives his ability to put on muscle higher by meeting those gateways as they open with the nutrients they need to make that happen.
I would have him do bloods btw. You can either prove to him he is already on the best cycle of his life or tell him he is about to be once puberty peaks.
If he is unwilling to do any and all of the above resort to what I did with my lil bro....."I will beat your ass!!!!!" Lol
Gospel! He lays it down like paint
AnonTHank you so much tread.. I was just talking with Nitti and the last thing I told him was, if I ever caught him doing anything "I am going to kick his ass!" I am going to sit down with him when I get back in town next week so that he can ask me questions and so that I can get him where he needs to be. He is an awesome kid. I know he wouldn't be dumb enough to start at this young of an age, but I sorta have the feeling that one of his very close friends has already. Hopefully I can get thru to him, if not, I will knock it into him
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIf it helps you could tell him doing AAS will stunt his growth (cartilage between long bones will turn into bone due to higher estrogen levels).
If he wants to bulk the most important thing is that he counts his calories. Every single one. If he's getting 5-6000 calories per day he will gain weight. I would say at his age it doesn't really even matter how he does it. I know when I was that age I was hardly more than 100 pounds, and I wrestled and played football, and I had the metabolism of a cheetah. Whether he eats 7 different 850 calorie meals or 1 6000 calorie meal I guarantee he will put on weight. Still I would recommend the 7 meals but hey, there's a million different ways to get the body of your dreams.
AnonThank you Swole
I will definitely make sure he get at least 7k cals ed.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalink7k cals. That is a TON of food. If he eats that much he'll gain weight. But I doubt he'd eat that much. You know how much I eat and I'm barely getting 5k
AnonHe likes smoothies(TED's recipe he gave me)
He can drink em, especially being out in the HOT HOT heat all day.
GS's recipe is purty friggen good! You should send him a request (SexyMexy). He's a guru in the kitchen.
AnonTHx baby I will
If he's gonna eat 7k calories ed he's gonna grow like a mofo. I guarantee it. I don't care what anybody says about having an ecto's metabolism, he's gonna get big real fast lol
You and Nitti will guide him well, best of luck to the kid ;)
AnonI will def. keep everyone posted, if he is really serious about getting big, I want him to do it the right way and if he doesn't want to then... he has a lesson learned... You've gotta work hard for what you want in life, nothing comes easy.
tread-mVery nice you're a sweet sis : )
Btw, my son played football and the chatter in jr high was BIIIG but by high school not only was it common practice and talk by the players, COACHES EVEN HINTED AT THE PROPER GEAR USAGE! I Would not be surpised to know 75% of high school football players are using prohormones or gear. I wonder what the average age of trt usage will be over the next decade or 2!!!
you would guess right and its gonna start being trt at 22....cause you know in high school its highly likely you know nothing about needing a PCT for recovery
tread-mExactlly and guess what, you'll find more of these kids poppin what? Dbol only!
yea i know my team was phs...well now from being here i know it wasn't just a ph because we were taking superdrol and other kids popped dbol. I'm a trt candidate at 22 and if i can stop one person from making the same mistake as me then I'm happy
AnonOMG! That is truly scary to think about but it is out there. Can't hide the facts. I think if he is going to do it, I want him to do it right and that will be in another 15 years
tread-mI imagine having you in the picture will be a positive too brother no doubt.
Damn you NEDRA! (Yes, Mrs Nitti's real name)
I told you that in confidence. (Yes this is the said little bro!)
You bring this shit to the forums and post my pic!!!! I'm telling mom! By the way, How do you think Dad is going to react when he finds out that your 17 year old ass is dating old man Nitti down the street? That's right. You break a confidence and I'll break one too.
Peace out.
tread-mWhat I hate is now they have a body type reference for you and the google matcher app will easily find you chiving on in the "weiners on weiners" section.
Sorry bout you bad luck : (
AnonI love you too ED. No HOMO ;P
Actually No INCESTO would be a little more appropriate.
AnonMMMmmmkayyyy if thats what you say little bro!!
Had the same problem In high school and started right at 15. Taking prohormones along with the rest of the football team because we could get them easily and how could it be bad for you? Just a pill right? Wrong. Wish I could go back and have someone beat some diet knowledge into me so I wouldn't have done all that shit. But yea just watch it's not just real roids you need to watch him for it's the PHs you can buy at a supplement store
AnonI've definitely got my eyes on him like a hawk as most mama's do
That's why I've come here for advice on diet.
Get him to start his day with GSG9's kitchen sink Wakeup shake. Has like 1100 calories and he's textbook ecto and just needs to slam calories. That's what I never understood at his age and it's not like I'm old I'm still young but I never got the diet until the last two years so it's good to beat it into him now
AnonThank you Ted. I sent you a FR.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAccepted
at 15 does he have any interest in sports or does he just play video games all day like a lot of kids do these days.. anybody has the ability to get strong with some dedication to activity whatever that may be...
AnonHe does it all, he works in construction in the blazing heat at least 8 hours a day, he skateboards, plays basketball, works out at the gym. He wants to play football but I think he thinks he is a little too little.