Do you think lecturing and chastising is the best way to help ?
Now I expect the mods to be a bit like drill sergeants, so thats NOT who Im talking about here. But when it comes to ordinary members it seems to me like a little less of a preachy tone would help everyone. Whether its a newb asking a question you see as foolish, or a long time member giving what you see as bad advice, dont you think a simple correction will keep the dialogue open and more likely teach everyone something ?
Everyone has to start some place, and no one knows it all. When you forget where you came from, and think you've seen it all, you may want to reconsider your own place for teaching and helping others. So next time you see a guy with a fucked up cycle, instead of making him regret he posted his plan (or lack there of) why not just give sincere advice in the right direction. Next time you see a level 2 or level 3 guy giving what you see as bad advice, why not ask them " why do you advise this ?" or " That may not be the best course of action"
Or would ya'll rather just beat the drums and bitch about the newbs and bitch about the guy with the high karma giving bad advice ?
I honestly think if your true interest is to better the community, and provide help, the later option is not what you will choose to do.
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I'm going to say you treat each situation differently.. For example, if you know the person is always giving bad advise at some point they need to be chastised.. but if it's someone honest opinion on something it's best to go with the approach of "what's your reasoning" and then supply the solution you think would be a better fit... sometimes this will become a good debate.. other times and argument.
AnonI try to help in every way I can, If I do not know the answer, I try to find a link to a post with some info that they are looking for and share that with them.
i can think of a few fuckers i'd like to chastise, or smack around with a wiffleball bat. like some of these fat fucks that parade like they're some kind of beast. God, i'd hate to see what they look like without gear in there life...
lmfao this is why you and are friends still lmfao!
Look I am trying the best I can but those donuts keep calling my name how about a little compassion for us fat fucks please!!!
AnonDid you say Donuts? Where???
Hahaha! Don't even get me started about that husband of yours! did you see the shit talking he was doing on his recent photo post to me. Rubbing that Mickey D s' food in my face and talking about still having abs. You two eat donuts and get leaner, I write a post with the word donuts in it and I just went up 2% in body fat
Guess what I'm eating now Pank?! Lol, chicken cheese steak anyone? Extra wiz wit? This Is like porn for you isn't it? Lol
All I can say is I am glad you are finally exposing yourself. All these guys think you bust your ass in the gym and you're Mr Eat Clean! But this is the true story you post pictures look like a Greek statue...and everyone thinks you're Mr fitness. All the while you are a greasy burger sausage steak and cheese, crisco eating bastard! That probably hasn't done a sit up your whole life and stiff have those abs.
As we speak I am sending your picture to USSOCOM. You remember in the Gulf War how we had cards with Saddam's and his henchmen s photo's on them for bounties. Well I am getting you your own card and having it sent to DOD to pick you up for experiments because clearly you are an alien from another galaxy and a potential threat to National Security by leading men everywhere to eat at McD's in the hopes that they won't become a fat fuck because Nitti isn't!!!
AnonNitti Boo Boo!!! WTF YO?!?!?!
AnonLOL ohhhhh Panky that's McD's place... best choc. chip cookies (shhhhh) with an ice cream cone after the gym... (don't tell Nitti ;p) hahaha and I doubt that just writing about it makes your bf go up. Unfortunately I'm stuck on the Gatorade and Rice cakes today... and the past couple :( That's why when food is mentioned on here I get super excited!!! It's nice to talk about it, expecially when you can't eat it.
When i get back we are going to Dunkin Donuts and you know who is going to the tofu store lol!
AnonOMG! Dunkin Donuts just opened like 2 blocks away from my work.
I'm a little terrified. Tofu on the other hand.... Mmmm
You eating my cookies again??? :-O
VewiCookies YUM!!!
AnonBaby!!! It wasn't meeeeee, It was D!!!!
I'm asking him. You know he can't lie. He giggles when he lies. If it was you I'm breaking out the handcuffs and blindfold.
;-P
AnonHold on!! Don't ask him yet!!
RustyhookerBatter up!
the wiffleball bat comment had me howling LOL!!
I got an image in my head of you chasing someone around beating them with that plastic bat
AnonRight ? and his victim going " owww owwww owwwww "
I've actually been attacked by someone using a wiffle bat.. it's the strangest sight.. others watching could not stop laughing.. stung like hell and I took it away from him after a few swings and beat him with it.. which only caused a larger uproar of laughter.. I don't think I could even swing it straight I was laughing so hard
My mom got after me with a wiffle ball bat many a time, lol. Depending on whether it is the big orange one or the narrow yellow it could sting a bit,
Haha mines done that too.. wooden tennis rackets too etc.. There's just something damn funny about a guy trying to fight you with a wiffle bat.. I mean this guy looked like he wanted to murder me hahaha he was so serious with this little wiffle bat
AnonOOOOh did she ever try the wooden spoon?
the wooden spoon, oh boy I got beat by that thing at least 2000 times... lol I was a hard head as a young kid!
AnonLol... I'd start crying before it touched my ass. I can't tell ya how many spoons broke.
After a few wooden spoon beatings all my mom had to do was rattle the spoon drawer in the kitchen and kids dissapeared with quickness. Im 50 and still get nervous when my gal rattles the drawer a little too much!
My mother has attacked me with everything and anything that wasn't bolted down. Most of the time I had it coming. lol
Anonhahaha yes thats true, but at least they are trying right ? Im trying to be more positive my self these days, but the wiffle ball bat does sound tempting ;)
I just couldn't resist myself.
I agree Dossier.
The hypocrisy demonstrated by a few around here is sad, that is putting it mildly. One should not call out others if you are not doing the work your own self. Frankly, I am blown away after digging into a couple of their pics and cycles. The same guys that tell people not to use tren with high BF now using tren with high BF, telling folks to PCT as long as you were on while themselves starting their next cycle 6-8 weeks after their last pin? Yea, not cool guys.
If you are going to lead, lead by example.
AnonPoint is, not everyone learns the same way. There is indeed a ton of info here, but theres also a lot of gobledegook , and one mans simple research is another mans needle in a haystack. Not to mention everything here is in text, so if you happen to be an auditory learner as opposed to a visual one, you are at a disadvantage from the start.
I do my best to be nice and helpful but I can understand why people get pissed off.. Some of the crap I've seen is ridiculous and pure laziness.. none the less I'll end up trying to help
Often times those are the ones who need it most. Just the other day some dude had a 6 week EQ cycle planned with nolvadex only as pct (which started the 6th week). Some of the members thought it was a joke or a troll post. But it wasn't. Sure if the guy would spend a couple hours researching about eq he would find out he needs to do 14-16 weeks. If he did more researching he would know how to run a proper test only first cycle.
But that's the thing he was going off of what he was told or how he thought he should run a cycle.
So I try my best and treat each new person the same. They may seem like an idiot or lazy for not doing research, but in my eyes they are just uninformed and are coming to the right place to learn. Why put someone down for taking the time to log in a cycle plan on line for others too see? Even if it's not a good cycle or set up correctly at least the person is spending time to learn and coming for help. I don't think it's fair to knock someone because they did not put a lot of research in. Who knows some fool from the gym could have told them and so they went with that advice, so again I try to not get mad at posts like that. That's what we are here for anyways right? We are all here to help others in hopes that they will succeed and made solid gains without hurting themselves.
Anyways I notice you spend a lot of time helping others, thank you for that we could definitely use more people like you around here.
6 week eq.. sounds legit LOL
Oh that's exactly how I feel.. what if they're not a troll.. and I always remind myself they're new.. we just can't expect them to know all of the basics so we try to point them in the right direction.. I appreciate it
AnonI think thats a fantastic attitude !!!!!!!
RustyhookerMy bad. I got preachy. As an open forum it's left to be a group effort as it should be. It's not always about preaching though but sometimes the lack of simple research to find out why. Couple hours scanning forums and old priest like me are just a thing of the past. Lol!
i couldn't agree with this more. you hit the nail on the head here, brother
Agreed! I see a ton of bashing rather than corrections being made to better someone's proper or improper usage. Good looking nov!
valhallas bestyou know i'm tired of everyone asking me for advice and opinions on there cycle and begging me for advice.. aha
Just curious how many hundred pms a day do you get asking for cycle advice? I agree it gets tiring...
valhallas bestBrother its like the neverending list of messages, just all these peasants scratching at my knees trying to steal all my gains.. Then on top of that all the wives trying to send me pms cause they wanna bang me and it turned out one of em was my wife so shit man eroids is destroyign my life
AnonDamn I was just hoping you'd set me up with a nice Tren , deca and Winny cycle
valhallas besthttp://static6.depositphotos.com/1166438/653/i/950/depositphotos_6534281...
Take a number and get in line brother!
AnonI dont know why you have a troll tag , it should be more like Jester !!! Great stuff !!
valhallas bestaha Thanks brother! a good laugh never hurt no one.. too bad i be blowing smoke up the wrong asses