posted Sat, 07/30/2011 - 02:48
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Dealing with significant others
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How do you guys deal with spouses/fiancees/gfs that disapprove of anabolic substances?
I've talked to my fiancee about me using steroids before, and she flat out told me no. Of course, I didn't tell her I'd already just started trying out anavar for the first time, and she never found out. Been sticking to orals only because they're easy to throw into a supplement bottle, but I don't know how to dive into injectibles without vast amounts of drama. I could try to fly under the radar, but if she ever found out...
Anyway, anyone with experience in this?
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Anonkwabby, my husband had the same issue.. a script for testim.. but we lost our insurance and it costs 700$ a box and he was using two boxes a month.. So we looked at our current alternative. Problem is as far as I have been able to the script is the script and it has to be what it says not an "alternative." I was at one point purchasing my scripts at an online pharmacy .. turns out I have been able to stop taking some of them but the issue is that I had supply them with an original script.. and stupidly enough they gave me a real hard time and the script was for estradiol.. you'd have thought I was trying to get pain killers or something..
Werold, I made a decision long ago that if my significant other did not approve of the things I do that make me happy, it wouldn't work. My wife helps me with my injections. That's how it should be, homie. You r lady has to roll with you no matter what. She's trying to control the behavior you engage in from a place of complete and total ignorance. The question isn't "how you should get over on her", but is she worth marrying in the first place. I'm sorry man, my vote is to find someone who'll be a bit more understanding.
It's not that bad. She doesn't control me, but it does come from ignorance about steroids. And the bad stigma makes her think that I will be hurting myself just to be bigger and stronger. She's a big worrier. Some education and convincing her that I won't pin myself to death, and she'll come around.
tread-mYou're in a place I like to call denial. 1 hint, we aint talkin bout the river!
-1 for the bad pun
tread-mI'll take that on the chin, I deserve it!
Haha. If I only had enough rep points to actually do it.
tread-mlol...aight, I deserved that
tread-mI like the 7gothic reply but let me add this....Figure out each and everything she uses...Ibuprofin etc.....pull all the stats on any and everything she uses and show her how dangerous all the things she uses really is. For example, more people die every month from ibuprofin use than in all of history on gear. When she says, "well those are people that abused it"! Then you say, "wow, you may actually be capable of learning something here"! Its funny how all the things we know will just kill the shit out everyone that uses it (cigarettes for example) are legal. But the second A LOT OF PEOPLE get healthy or start avoiding diseases "WELL THAT SHIT HAS TO STOP"! Seriously, pull all the stats you can find on your gear and the health benefits and her whatever and its fail rate and show it to her diplomatically to prove your point. Why do you think "wellness centers" are opening up all over the country and you see a "low T" commercial every 2 hours. The medical community is actually starting to figure out what many of us have know for years. I used my first gear in 1983 and there simply are no 25 years olds other than those that also use gear that can stand beside me and be proud of their body. Its simple science and at some point you just have to accept the facts or we just can't debate anymore. Either we agree the leaves on the tree are green or you have to shut up...it was you or me and I'm on gear so its you!
I wish it was this easy to convince a woman. From what i've seen and know, Convincing women to change their mind about something, especially being a man tryna do it, is one of the hardest things ever unless its demanded. Its possibly harder than trying to get politicians to raise the debt ceiling lol. but really most of the people who are against juice are the same people who use prescription drugs, otc drugs and think they are entirely different things in terms of side effects and abuse. Of course these people are the same ones who use alcohol and tobacco every weekend. At that point I just give up on them.
tread-mI know brother, talk is cheap. I have done this and worked out etc the entire 25 years my wife and I have been together so she knew the score early and I guess theres a whole lot of luck involved with my situation. I support her in everything she does so maybe she feels as though it is her duty to do the same. She complains about all the gym time here and there but she understands to the degree that this is who I am and apparently theres something she likes about me. I will say this, control the temper. It was my biggest problem in the old days and the thing is I still get the urge to knock a door down from time to time but I'm stronger than that. If you can't get your shit together in that aspect then she will fight you at every turn. Temper is within your control when you do a big cycle and I tend to think its a reflection on how strong you are mentally when it comes to dealing with it. blah blah blah....but keep that in check and she will come around in time. If not then you just have to kill her as Goth said, I'm sorry shit happens and people die. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them! lol
AnonSorry Kwabby but if you demand that I change my mind about something ... well, I am quite sure it will be eternity before I would even consider other options. I wasn't thrilled about my man using especially considering the bad rep aas has in regards to temperament changes, etc. I want my man to be happy but not at my expense of having to live with a complete jacka**. My man was patient enough to present evidence to the contrary. I watched bigger faster stronger with him and even went so far as to do my own research.... Look,at me now. I use gear too.
True but I have to disagree with the jackass statement. Unless he's shooting like 5 grams of Tren weekly theres no reason for him to be a jackass.....unless he was already one before he got on a cycle ;) But I def have to admit you seem the exception of women. Most women (it seems) wont go out of their way to research something unless it benefits them....or something like makeup tips smh Just sayin!
tread-mYou're always the voice of reason...point is, reasonable people will come to reasonable conclusions and some will just never get it I guess huh. I have actually had a person that smoked say "your not using those steroids are you?" I'm a pretty nice guy but I wanted to say, how many people do you know that have died from steroid use? and then say, everyone I know that smokes is either sick or dead including half of my family. I don't harp on people but sometimes I just can't believe they never look inward! By the way, my wife one uped you, she is using my balls as a pair of mexican clackers tied to a string! I had a pair of those when I was a kid and it does look fun but she won't let me play with them AT ALL!
lol ouch? but yeah I agree. Most people in this country especially are sheep to the media. I've learned by trying to change them or get them to realize is a whole other losing battle. Just try one at a time. I tried to explain the illuminati to my mother....Never again will I do that lol
AnonSome people are too invested in being right. Some people want to cling to the garbage they have been spoon fed their entire lives.... some people are just too comfortable and don't want to question what they are fed by mainstream media (politicians and the government). Other people don't look at what they are doing and that it also affects others (smokers.. can't tell you how much second hand smoke I have been forced to suck into my virgin lungs)..
As for you wife, she sounds like a great person and very talented and visionary to take your balls and make them into Mexican Clackers...if you want to play with them maybe you should buy her a nice shiny present?
tread-mlol....At least I get to see them, she hangs them in the car over the rear view mirror! I like the "mainstream media" comment, but they are not mainstream anymore. People have finally figured them out...I like to call them the piss stream media! It really is funny though to hear people quote that crap, it is kinda scary to realize we can be indoctrinated just like the little Nazi's or the middle Eastern kids (so easily). Its true, if you say something over and over people think its fact. I dont care how simple it is either! Just like now with the debt limit, how the hell do half the people think when you're broke you raise your spending limit on your credit card. "Hey honey I just checked the bank account and we're overdrawn by 10,000 dollars, I'm gonna run out to the mall and run these credit cards up a little more and see if that fixes it"! OOps, my politics came out here and I promised to keep that shit out of my eroids world! Its your fault for bringing up the piss stream media! But you are right, steroids are illegal and smoking is legal....you're kidding right?
AnonLike I said before, I keep my husbands in my pocket... I do let him have them back on occasion..
we are all indoctrinated beginning at birth..Lets see, remember the food pyramid? If we ate like that we'd all be squishy and very little muscle.. Problem is that I don't think that we are the norm. There are lots of SHEEPLE out there running around. I couldn't even think about discussing any of this.. roids etc with my sister and she is highly educated and dare I say smart (don't even think of telling her I said so;-)... and as for money, We are taught from a young age that CREDIT is good and that we NEED to HAVE GOOD CREDIT!! What kind of stupid BS is that?
So the real issue here, be it money or gear, is when are people gonna start asking questions and thinking for themselves?
Never. Thats the correct answer. People have been taught what to believe since the days of Great Mayan and Egyptian Kings. It truly will never change. Those higher up, truly have too much power in their control. I on the other hand, choose to find out shit on my own and actually research the hell out of things before I make decisions. Now that I think of it, I've always been that way since I was a little kid....even tho i've only been around for plus or minus 20 years ;)
Well said....
Does anyone remember the scene in "Bigger Faster Stronger" where they showed the movie clip with Ben Affleck, where he was using steroids, and then beats the shit out his wife and was pouring the bottle of D-bol down his throat--like the WHOLE bottle, and then destroyed the house??? That shit was funny as hell!!
If I see Ben Affleck, I'm kickin' his AZZZZZZZ.
That is pretty f-ing hilarious. Most guys I've seen on gear are pretty mellow dudes.
tread-mAre Ben and I the only ones that line that shit up like shots and run it through a beer bong? I thought that was normal?
LOL...Did you see the actual scene... OMG it was hilarious...... how his hands were shaking and he was laying on the floor crying. I laughed my ass off.
That's the type of shit right there that contributes to people's ignorance.
I always thought that gear would make me go off and kill someone, because I already have a temper. But my temper is better than it's ever been, and I feel better than I ever have in my life. Wish I would have been educated about roids when I was in my 20's and 30's... I could have BEEN SOMEBODY, MAN!! lol
OK...I'll be serious (for a sec)..
I think Rods had a great idea. When I watched Bigger Faster Stronger, my entire attitude about steroids changed, not to mention my attitude about the government and pussy-ass politicians.
She obviously has been brainwashed by the media and urban myth (like we ALL have at some point) ...she needs to be educated about the truth. If I quit taking steroids, my wife would NOT be happy at all, because she knows that with me being almost 50, no test means no sex...no yard work....and no laundry---That's right, I will refuse to do the laundy.
Look, my dad is 74, and he gets a shot of Test Cyp every two weeks at the doctor's office, and it's been a miracle drug for him. He feels better. He looks better, and he's not depressed. People who say steroids are bad, can't have it both ways::You can't say they're good for old guys...but dangerous for younger healthy guys.
that city congress man in Bigger Faster Stronger was a complete joke. They should've edited him out. I actually, ACTUALLY thought he was just joking around about not knowing the age limit for drinking and cigarettes. and yeah I agree on the whole you cant have it both ways. people look at it like that with marijuana too with the whole medical marijuana and marijuana. There is no such thing as medical marijuana! just marijuana used for medicinial purposes. Its amazing how much control the govt has over people's minds. its scary really. Maybe we're all just the rebelious ones lol
If it's your spouse, just do what I did::: Kill her.
That way, you can USE all the gear you want, and you can use the money from the insurance policy to BUY all the gear you want.
I dunno, dude. I don't know enough guys to get gear in prison.
you'd be surprised what and how much can be keestered
I will not ask how you know this.
AnonNot sure that I want to know how you know how much can be "keestered" where I worked "they" rather enjoyed doing the cavity searches..
Anonnice 7, I am sure that worked out well for you ;-)
AnonWhen you start injecting how are you gonna hide the mood swings? My husband definitely had some short trigger anger issues with some of the stuff he was taking, not to mention his own "personal summers" when the rest of us were cool as cucumbers. Unless she has her head in the sand and doesn't want to know or notice then something is gonna go down. The best thing to tell you is that secrets destroy relationships. If this is gonna be an issue what are the other issues gonna be down the road?
That's a bit of a slippery slope argument. I don't keep shit from her, but the negative reaction will be too much to deal with if I told her outright. Hell, she might go tell someone else about my use if she feels she needs to talk to someone about it. I dunno about you, but I wouldn't want word spreading about me using an illegal substance. Loose lips sink ships, after all.
AnonI don't see that what I have said here puts it on the status of slippery slope argument, but that's just my opinion. She will notice at some point. She may still "talk" to someone about it. and as for loose lips, you are out here on the internet taking the chance that this site is secure...you might even be on other forums.. and you have a concern that she will blab???
Perhaps. But she ain't ready for it right now.
And I don't think I'll be doing massive cycles or anything like that. I already got up to the 220-230lbs range naturally so I'm not looking to throw on another 50lbs with gear.
As for taking a chance via the internet, I'm not that paranoid. The chances of someone I know irl stumbling across the leavings of my internet habits is nearly none. And if asked about it, I will not deny. My fiancee and close friends will know eventually. Just not right this second.
Women always say secrets are bad, but they're the best at keeping them, and hence, they usually have a stranglehold on power. I would do it regardless....in front of her, on the low - whatever. She has a problem, tell her to beat it.
AnonI am referring to the kind of secrets that one has to SNEAK around and be sly about. They eat at the fabric of the relationship and create feelings of resentment. You can't generalize and say that women are the best at keeping them. I know PLENTY of men who keep secrets and act more like BITCHes than the women they complain about. The reality is if the GF accepted her man for who he is even if she had reservations she would respect him and at least try to understand.
Every man has his secrets. And it's hardly eating away at my relationship at the moment. Acceptance is not a readily available thing especially with someone brainwashed with a certain mindset. The image of a roider is largely negative in the US. How can she respect that image? I have to change that first. Presentation is important here so I'll go the slow and consistent route of bringing it up and showing her info over the course of months before going all out with it.
couldn't imagine not having the ol' lady supporting me. like right now i'm dealing with tren dick (and there is NO hiding that) and she's not exactly thrilled but i'm hitting the proviron. she asked if i could just take viagra or something, i said sure i could, but this is my first run with these compounds and it's important for me to understand how they effect my body. not to mention to bring the info to others who may need it. she gets it. Also, I am Alpha, king of the castle and ruler of the roost... that doesn't mean i don't love her and she knows it
i agree with Rods, have a movie night of Bigger, Faster, Stronger
Yeah Hollywood I love the way tren is making me look but goddam it's has a vendetta against mr Johnson. It's trying to sabotage my cock!!aaaaaaahhhhhh! Cialis works man. Take that or Viagra. Fuck it bro it raises the bp but i got meds for that. My girl hates my juicing but wtf she Gunna do go live with her folks!!! Lmao. I pay da bills and I make da rules. Funny thing tho bro is she loves popping the whiteheads on my back bro! And she can't help but rub my arms and chest when we get it in. she act like she don't like it but her eyes don't lie:-D in the end fellas if ur girl don't accept u for u. Wtf u still with her.
I will say this, when I 1st mentioned takin steroids the wife gave me the look of " go ahead and see what happens", but I explained to her why I wanted to start test and how I am tired of being a skinny lil fuck and she got a lil more exceptable to it. My wife has had problems with weight gains in the past due to depression b4 we got together, she was 5'5" and about 210 lbs, dont get me wrong she has always been a beautiful woman to me but growin up in a broken home where your mother is a alcoholic and literally spent all of her money on booze and trying to eat as much as she when her mom finally got groceries because of the fear of not knowing how long it will last and when she"ll get to eat again tends to explain the weight problem and not to mention being locked in the basement and being malested by her fathers best friend when she was just a lil girl and her parents not believing her or just not caring. The past three years has been the happiest years of her life and she has dropped down to a smoking 135 with a very very well rounded ass!! Im not tryin to deviate from the subject but what im getting at she understands what its like to have weight issues, either being to big where your unhappy, or being to skinny it tends to give certain people a complex. she is now supporting every bit of the choices im makin to to better my body mind and spirit. Hell she even helps me with my injections on my shoulder when I am having a hard time empting the syring. Not to mention I love every comment she makes about my chest is gettin huge or my shoulders are gettin so wide. I know its different strokes for different folks but the principals the same. relationships should be built on honesty and I stand behind that. people have corrupted the whole concept of steroids and made it in trhe same catagory as drugs like meth and heroin. they have changed my life so dramatically and helped me to become a better, healthier person. sorry for the rambling but this is my input and im glad ive got a good woman to stand by my side!!!!
You could always try hunting for some caverject if you don't mind sticking your dick with a needle.
I'll try, but I don't know if I can sit her down long enough to get past 10 mins of it.
HA! i've gotten use to sticking needles in alot of places bro, my dick isn't one of them...
A lot of male escorts and dudes in porn do it though. I even read a blog about some gay escort in Canada who was using caverject and igf-lr3 along with exercises and a contraption called a divo cup to try to grow his penis.
AnonI feel for you guys what happens when you get zits or gyno or the moonface? Hiding the vials and pins is the easiest. If i didnt had my partner supporting me with all the sides i would propably never do it. Thankfully she takes care of the zits she knows as much as i do for roids and her support when i flared up was priceless. I am stunned of what some women force people to do. Fck pretending you are on hcg, part of the reason we do it is for their gain as well. Also tell your closed minded ladies that all the birth control pills they were taking are indeed roids so they cant really tell you not to do it they have done it themselves.
I'm jelly, bro.
I sweat a shit ton at work so I blame acne on that, and never had probs with gyno. She is completely oblivious to gear and it's sides, so I will just keep doing what im doing. It's working so far knock on wood
AnonLets hope she stays oblivious then. Prob is when you get to injecting you will produce a lot of oil and tonnes of zits and ofc the odd absess that will cripple you. If you can find excuses for all the sides you are g2g i guess. Since she prefers it that way it is her fault anyways. Gl with whatever you do
Bro, I went through the same thing. My wife is on the "steroids kill" media band wagon. After multiple attempts to inform her they are safe when not abused she still flat out says no. So I started injecting anyway and managed to convince her to let me do HCG, now she thinks all my stuff is for HCG. I still keep my vials put away but it makes it easier if she ever see's a needle, she thinks it's for the HCG. So with all that said, I have to hide it thanks to the fucking worthless media and all this steroids give you cancer, and make your bones rot, and make you grow hair on your eye lids shit. Sorry if this doesn't help you out but it did feel good to finally come out of the closet about my use, and I'm glad it was here.
Yeah, I know, man. The American media has kinda poisoned that well. Somehow, I need to show her that it can be used responsibly.