+ 2 Complaining about TA times
You know what? Sick of it. Shut the hell up. You guys think you get scammed blah blah, go see what the guys in Aus and NZ deal with and get a new perspective. Everyone in the US and even UK where you actually have domestic sources has it made. Next time I see someone complain about "wahh my shit is late blah blah" I will always remember the conversations I've had with these guys. The shit they go through just to get a couple vials of fuckin gear, you guys wouldn't even bother. And fuck it, it'd be better we wouldn't have so many stupid questions flying around more than likely too. So next time you go to open your mouth, think about just about every order you try and make getting seized, and if it does come through the chance you will get arrested. Sounds fun right? Be glad you live in places where you maybe get burned for one order a year, you deal with slower TA times from time to time. So fuckin what. Go read what they deal with and get a new perspective on what that's like and I bet you'll quit bitching.
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The whole reason for my forum i posted a while ago about hoarding gear. Because shit happens. Not hoarding gear is fucking rookie move shit
Hoarding is good man!... squirells hoard nuts for winter so they dont starve = clever squirell, juice head with NO gear = dumb bastard.
dumb bastard is right.
Spring rush where all the newbs were into cycle and ran out.....wintet rush should be hitting soon. Lol
We all better buy more stock before the sources get beasted with the winter noobs lol.
Double high five to that!
Lol. Twelve years ago I was crossing the border from TJ back into the US with redijects and stan taped to the insides of my legs and around my cock. Yeah. I don't complain about turnaround times. Oh yeah, snow was 6 feet deep and the trip was uphill both ways bitches.
CleyonI keep a bottle of TNE and syringe taped to my cock just in case of emergency, the Boy Scout moto, "Be Prepared".
They make thumb sized syringes?
CleyonYeah, the 1ml shorties like a ready to inject sustanon from Mexico... bastard...
Musta been cold out....the water....lmao!
Now THAT'S the ol' skool shit these kids need to hear!
I understand your point and some people are definately over the top, but this is a business customer relationship. I understand how things were years ago when I would send my funds to Russia and hope for the best. However, suppliers are business owners and if they quote a T/A then it is there job to make it happen. I think some guys quote unreasonable T/A to get more orders and then get overwhelmed or simply grow too fast and don't adjust their T/A so they get behind. A bigger gripe for me is reading through pages of, I got my stuff bro, I pinned the first time today and your shit is fire bro, and all the other bromance that goes on just to find real reviews.
TxBigBoyMan I was going to write out this big speech but honestly your so clueless as to what goes on behind the scenes that it really wouldn't change anything. Gripe all you want about sources not meeting T/A times they post or the "bromances" but at the end of the day it's a business and how do you generate business... by advertising. and the when it comes to shipping illegal substances is be happy that you got it in general an not a letter saying your address has been flagged.
I completely agree with you Tx, I am only talking domestic when there are no letters and the shipping is fairly straigth forward. I have had stuff confiscated this is not the suppliers fault. I also don't think if the quoted T/A is 10 days you should be complaining at day 7 or even day 11, this is over the top. But at day 20 then ok contact the supplier. I agree this clutters the boards but go take a look at the review section, half of them clearly violate the rules of what a review is supposed to be.
Yeah, sometimes I think some of these guys expect a src to just walk downstairs to the warehouse to see what the hold up is LOL!
TxBigBoyLmao! Ahhh if it was only that easy
Come on hllwbdboy all I am saying is the if someone is going to sell something should'nt they have it in stock to sell? If not then they add risk to the process and that is not the buyers fault.
These guys work within a large network with countless variables, one clogged cog causes a butterfly effect... And believe me when I say it's alot harder than it looks
I agree with you 100%. They take great risks and I appreciate that someone is willing to do it. Communication is key, if a supplier communicates his issues and the customer is still complaining they should blacklist them. I have seen this is several forums and I think that is the right thing to do as it should make others more likely to follow the rules.
This is not a typical business customer relationship. This is the black f*in market!!!! Omg! I need to stay off ER today! And let me add "some of these guys are just a step up from your neighboirhood crack dealer," as quoted by Hollywood. If you want a typical business customer relationship go by your "Anavat" from GNC!
::sniff:: Hllwd swells with pride as BBG takes him to the mat
I would be ok with her taking me to the mat.
Please don't be annyoyed
I actually agree with you that some of these guys are a step above the neighborhood crack dealer and that is one of the issues. A lot of these guys are professional and conduct business the right way. Even when they have issues they communicate, but the "crack dealer" types do not. By the way I have had great dealings with nearly everyone I have ordered from here and have never posted these types of complaints to clutter the boards. I think up to a certain point this should be handled through PM. I actually think that they should not even post T/A just something like don't contact me until x days after payment and this initial contact should be email or pm.
"Anavar" ...... I can't type on my phone when I'm annoyed! Ok, I'm done!
I understand it is the black F*in market. But you must be kidding to think a business owner and that is what they are should not set realistic goals. Look I am not talking about the times that they get busted or screwed that is clearly different. I am talking about "normal" domestic T/A. There are great suppliers that shut off their orders when they know they don't have material to fill them and then there are some that do not. If a person takes orders they now how much raw material they have on hand and if they can fill it or not. If they don't have the raw material on hand to fill it then they are taking risk of not making orders and that is not smart business and why a lot of people end up going under. They have orders, but their raw material supplier screws them and they cannot recover. Do you really think because it is black market that a supplier should not know if they can deliver within the T/A that they set?
Yup.
Anonyeah think of the poor aussies hahaha..
Lol. They just won't get it until they know what it's like to try and score gear there. The story you told me was unfathomable.
Anonsuggestion to BFG..people that complain about T/A times should be sent down under for a 6 month stretch with the rest of us convicts fighting for the good oil..guaranteed to be sent back a different man!
You guys are prisoners and its fucked up
Anonive said it before and yet again..it is a beautiful prison..
I've said it before and I'll say it again... If you need your gear your a fkn amateur. Those that whine do so because they have yet to commit. If you are serious about this you should be holding at least 2-3 cycles ahead along with a hefty staple of test. The rest of you are spoiled little tourists. Hell I've still got prop from X in my stash LOL!
And much respect to the Aussies but it really wasnt that long ago that we would send $$ to some unknown, unverifiable, word of mouth source overseas somewhere with the hopes of at some point on the next few months something arrives and please don't let it be bunk with absolutely no recourse if it was... So this may sound like sitting around the campfire with grandpa for some of you but I also remember what it was like to have to "get up" to turn the channel on the tv
I agree completely bro... amateurs are always the ones complaining due to never ordering enough gear and ancills in the first place... also this place is like a fkn supermarket for steroids,i used to have to wait for fkn months for gym owners to source gear so luckily us old bastards learned the hard way which in turn makes these days so fkn easy its untrue!... looking through the review pages you very very rarely see vets complaining about T/A times because they know what the fuck the are doing.
And the T.V. thingy i fkn love them remote gadgets i can flake on the sofa in my undies all fkn night,only time i have to move is for a piss lol thats becoming hard work maybe i should have a catheta fitted and become A real lazy bastard LOL.
I just (patiently) waited 4months for a seizure letter because:
a) this shit does get caught in transit
b) caught in customs and some big mofo is getting bigger on MY gear
c) I got burned
All of these scenarios are perfectly acceptable to me and I won't whine about any of them because I have no disillusions
Agreed
I had a black and white 13" with 8 channels and a dial growing up. And I'm not an old fuck either
AnonI think in many instances you are correct, that is exactly the case for me, when I started I hadnt planned right and needed to replenish quickly.
However more recently I was in a situation where I did not need the gear, I was not in a rush for it, it was as I mentioned more an issue of security for me, knowing when the package was in transit.
So without knowing every single persons concern and back ground its very hard to judge whether or not they have a complaint. Complaints are just reality, they happen in every business, the real measure is how the complaints are handled.
But "we" are getting spoiled. Most of you weren't here from the beginning. When eroids was at its inception I was one of the few sending cash into the darkness for the sake of the community with the hopes of bringing back good news (that I actually rcvd something). There was alot of tension about who was going to make the test run on the next new source. We didnt have tons of reviews or sources fighting for reputation. This was only like 16 months ago NOW all you motherfuckers feel entitled! Make no mistake, as friendly as we get around here this is still the black market and you are still rolling the dice
AnonNo no no ,look make no mistake, there should be no missunderstanding of my or anyone elses grattitude for the pioneers and what has been built here. I assume and expect nothing when it comes to this stuff.
That being said, how ever it evolved, black market or not there is an even exchange here between vendor and consumer. Just by that nature alone there are going to be customer service questions/issues. My point all along has simply been that understanding why and not assuming why may eliminate a good number of them. Also that ilegal business or not, there are those who stand out and above the crowd by displaying their good business sense and fairness to their customers.
That's how I see it too. I was amazed that this place even exists, and functions the way it does. I kind of just stumbled upon this site one day searching around the net for sources...I sat back and watched from the outside for a few months before I even joined, and when I did join...the first person I friended up was Nitti and PM'd him shit like 'how is this real?!' and 'this is too good to be true'.
I've only been here for about just over six months...and I have already seen it grow and change. I can imagine what some of you initiators went thru and have seen thus far...and I give you guys the utmost respect and thanks for your perseverance. If it wasn't for all y'all, then MOST of us would still be searching on the gym streets and/or sending funds away with nothing coming in return.
Whether it is domestic or international...I send funds and sit back and wait, sometimes it takes about six weeks..and that goes for both avenues. Does anyone see me bitchin?...I would say "Hell NO!!"...and I hardly ever PM the source about questions either. It's called patience, and if you don't have any then get the FUCK out!!!
Well, to be honest. You're a domestic source for a reason, it's part of the deal. To complain unreasonably, yeah I hear you. But to say bitching about T/A is blah blah blah. Just look at these said MF'ers in Aus/NZ.
I might as well say I'm tired of people like you using the internet to bitch, when some countries don't have it, or have censored internet. C'mon man, this is on par with how petty their bitching is.
AnonHA-this is on par with how petty their bitching is.
If you thoroughly read what I wrote all I'm saying is everyone bitching still has it made compared to these guys in Aus. I think my point was missed completely.
I understood the 'point' fine. But it's always easy to say how easy you've got it when comparing to someone else.
I'm in the US. We do have it made here. If you don't think so I encourage you to go read what it's like getting gear there by just opening their thread.
AnonFirst of all you both have points. Yes we here in the US often do forget how good we have it and no I wouldnt want to be anywhere else. That being said Im not anywhere else so my expectations are relative.
I think the more important point here that could have been made is, understanding why people complain.
People complain because they are told an expected date and it's not there by then. I get that. But imagine making 10 orders and having a good idea that if you're lucky 5 get through, and those other 5 that didn't could land your ass in prison.
AnonWell I started down this road by buying a ticket on jetblue and going to a Mexican pharmacy, so its up to each to do what they think is worth the risk.
Ultimately I am and think most people are indeed grateful for what we have . Its all about expectations. If I went in to it knowing most packages get seized, then I may do things differently. luckily though ,that is simply not the case for us here in the US.
AnonAs long as I know either a time of arrival, or a time of departure I am good. Even If I was told "your item wont leave for 21 days I can work with that.
Its more about the communication of the vendor. If the vendor is vague about the info and you are looking for a package every day thats nonsense.
In my opinion the most dangerous time obviously is when it has left its handler and before it gets to the recipient. I think its not knowing during that time that gets people most anxious.
As a whole however I feel very fortunate with the orders I have placed and the people I have dealt with, and the more and more Im in this game the more and more I see 99.9 % of the people are trying to help, not scam.