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Has anyone in here is on ADHD meds, like Elvanse or Methylphenadite. I have been recently diagnosed with ADHD, i am on 30mg of Elvanse. Before starting the medication, i was using 40mg of Clen. Wondering if anyone here has ever used these 2 drugs together? Thanks.

herktime's picture

Watch blood pressure. Beet root and arugula helped me a ton. I take more stimulants than I am proud to say but it’s doctor’s orders and necessary for me. I use albuterol not Clen, and my BP shot up. I’d ask to have some beta blocker or prazosin adrenergic blocker just for days you’re panicking. Switching to a stimulant with all Dextrose amp will reduce peripheral sides and vasoconstriction. If you can buy Ibudilast it eliminates those sides too without reducing either med’s effect. Get your diet 100 and please listen to an expert here on clen dosages. One piece of advice: don’t preworkout with stims because you do limit your performance due to the vascular constriction. I’d take the stim a bit after the gym and don’t push through bad cardio readings. It’s not worth the reward. However, it’s used, not unsubstantial amounts either, and people do okay. I’m on Desoxyn so I’m worried as F but I am familiar with the drug and know how to mitigate or abort the sides if needed. If I could I would drop it for a clen stint. No need to use two at once you’re risking more than you’ll likely keep in gains and the anxiety and physical parasympathetic nervous system effects would kill me with anxiety.

Janus's picture

Yeah....Don't do that.. At least you asked the question before doing something that would harm you, probably kill you.

press1's picture

Surely taking Clen if you have ADHD is a no no isn't it?

I've seen countless young healthy males go to bed after taking that stuff and die of a heart attack in their sleep only to be found by their parents in the morning.

herktime's picture

You actually have? Not trying to be a dick, I am just not aware of any clen deaths from use such as was proposed. It’s commonly abused enough that I would expect to hear about this scourge lol. Crack and Methamphetamine users with nicotine habits workout and don’t die at these rates from overdose.

press1's picture

Oh Yeh Bud there have been loads of these type of deaths in the UK linked to guys taking it in the newspapers. A lot of lads on Rugby teams use it to try lose weight and end up with heart attacks.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5344459/Rugby-player-dead-takin...

dazedchef's picture

Everyone please read this. I have used Adderall XR with clen before. I felt like I was gonna literally die. The heart palpitations were the worst I ever experienced. This is a quick way to the grave if you ask me. I know everyone is different but please don't do it. I didn't feel normal for days. I wasn't even on any gear other than clen. My heart would race then beat like it was about to stop or something. I got in bed and tried to calm my heart. I ended up being thrown into a panic attack and my fingertips and lips went numb. I passed out the way people do in movies where your vision turns black from the outter edges of your sight, then woke up 5 minutes later still panicking. It gave me PTSD I guess because now I cannot take either one of them. Telling my story even makes me nervous. I should have called 911 but I was young and dumb. Please, nobody do this!

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herktime's picture

In US adderall is still first line treatment; Methamphetamine is the last stop, but by far the easiest and most beneficial Rx I’ve ever received. I’m on a punt dose and it works better than any adhd med I was put through. Canada methylphenidate is all you got, same with UK, no?
The prodrug nature of Vyvanse and it’s D amp structure make me feel you’ll be fine. Just have a beta or alpha blocker on hand to deal with unexpected atrial flutters, probably something more scary than life threatening but both drugs can cause or exacerbate atrial fibrillation. Of course, stay hydrated and keep sodium and potassium balanced which will cause these symptoms. I’m still in the camp of hold off on one and just wait on stims till after. Clen isn’t a miracle anyway, just diet and do a slow taper short duration clen stint, rest and rehydrate with balanced electrolytes and water soluble vitamins then go back on stims. No extra gains from combining them. It’s better not to overheat your neurons with all that thermoregulation trickery - just go old school with a rubber hoodie and pants over the sweatshirt and hit them burpees in the sauna if you wanna lose some water for a competition or something. Else, get rid of both the drugs they are bad news eventually. Good luck and listen to the warnings here. I tried to put some reasoning and discussion points to see what you’re after but sounds like you are just needing a quick answer and it’s unanimous.

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