posted Sun, 01/29/2012 - 06:54
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How is it possible to fit 300mg of test e in a ml.
Is a lighter oil used act as the ester, and is that lighter oil able to create the same half life of the typical 200mg/ml of test e?
Is less of the ester used in order to fit more test per ml making the half life shorter, but then wouldnt it be something other than test e if that were the case..?
im sure theres a simple explanation, i looked on google and didnt find much..
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Frankie1 gram of powder = 1000mgs of that hormone
10ml vial @ 300mgs/ml - 3 grams of powder that will melt and displace into around 2.8ml of raw test e liquid ( 2.8ml = 3000mgs of test e) you cant inect this melted test e liquid in its raw form so carriers and solvents are added
carrier can be plain old oil like grapeseed/cottonseed/rapeseed/ect solvent can also be used as carrier and will give a much smooth inection (eo solvent for example)
other solbent used are BB and BA
BB will keep most standard dose hormone in solution while BA WILL KEEP ANY NEW BACTRIA FROM FOAMING AFTER FILTERATION.
TEST IS HAS A LOW MELTING POINT SO ITS EASY MADE AT HIGH MG/ML SAME WITH DECA AND A COUPLE OF OTHER HORMONES
THE HIGHER THE MELTING POINT THE HARDER IT IS TO MAKE AT HIGH MG/ML
test enanthate is easy makeable at 500mgs/ml
15% bb
2% ba
eo as carrier
that will be 5grams of test e hormone per 10ml vial (50000mgs)
300mgs is around 0.3 of a gram of raw powder ,this will displace and melt into around 0.28of a ml the rest is carrier and solvent to make upto 1ml
I hope that was a typo and not a miscalculation.
I think you have 1 to many 0's.
Frankiehaha you are right
10ml test e @ 500mgs/ml = 5000mgs in that 10ml vial total
hey thank you for the info, it helped clear things up allot
A ml also called a cc or cubic centimeter. A litre holds a 1000 cc's or ml's and a liter of water weighs 1 kg or kilogram. So a ml or cc of water weighs 1 gram or 1000mg.
Oil is a little lighter than water (it will float on water), but 300 mg of a powder can easily be disolve in to less than a cc or ml of fluid if you use the right solvents.
i see.. ya i totally understand i imagined that test e per ml was broken up into percentages of the actual hormone and then solvents n what not, and that with the percentage of the ml made up of the hormone was limmited to 200mg..and so if you added more mg's or more "weight" then the percentage of the hormone in that ml would spill over into another ml.. I had to get this figured out or i was really going to think 300mg/ml of test e or more was a scam. I appreciate the feedback for sure thank u
Not totaly following.
If you had a 200mg/ml formula, and you wanted to make a 300mg/ml formula instead.
To do so,...you would add more powder and reduce one of the other components (probably oil), and it would all work fine if the other components had the capacity to carry the TestE powder in suspention.
i don't make it or even know how to make it. i was just asking out of curiosity
but that's interesting.. i thought that the oil being used was the ester itself.. I'm ignorant on the subject pertaining to what the different steroids available are comprised of and what components do what.. but I'm def. interested in looking into it all...
The oil is a transport device, the ester is a chain of molucules that are attched to the Testosterone molucule. Just think of an ester as a time release capsule. I think I once saw an ester described as an acid disolved in an alcohol. Which is past the chemistry I understand.
FrankieALL RAWS COME WITH ESTER ATTACHED
test prop
test e
nandrolone deca
mast prop
tren a
tren e
all come in a powder that is diluted with a carrier and solvents to the strenth you want
You can also get Testosterone powder without an ester attached that is water soluble, esters pretty much make the testosterone oil/acid soluble only.
Frankiecorrect
test suspension/test base
50-100mgs ml only depending what carriers and solvents you use
esterless hormones
there wouldnt happen to be a site/source with info pertaining to all of this that could help better understand the compositions of the dif. aas available and how to make them and so on ... would there?
Think of it this way:
If you have a 3 cups of water in a beaker, and you add one cup of sugar, your total fluid in that beaker would be more than 3 cup and less than 4 cup.
It has to do with how molecules fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.
AnonNext time I mix a batch of WPI I am PMing this Bro :-)
KMC is smarter then I look (thank God)
That could be an insult.
AnonThink of the ester attached to a hormone as a hand. No ester hormone may kick in 30-90 minutes post injection (open hand, no grip).
Acetate has a finger grip that of Propionate about 10-24 hours (palm hand grip).
PP and Hex bring about 24-78 hours (half closed grip).
Enan and Cyp got you 6 to 10 days. (cupping some nice C-cups) mmmmmmmmm
Iso and Deca 10 + days Deca being traced in blood work for up to one year. (baseball bat grip).
I skipped over each or this shit would be too long but I think you get the picture.
Anon300 Test E is cake. Test with the Enanthate ester melts at 98F or in your fingers. The trouble with high concentration (anything) is the deposit of "once a powder" in to a site where after the solvent and co-solvent have been assimilated by the body the now re-crystalized hormone powder is "rocked up" and the small lumps begin.
Test E may hold at over 400mg/ml but the PIP would over the duration of a cycle become a literal PITA for us common BB types.
Ethtyl Oleate is a great "thinner" until a "peanut allergy" kicks someone in the ER and hopefully before they die and not after or on the way.
90% of you have become too comfortable and go with cool dope names and labels very carefully crafted by model of REAL PHARMA and compounding pharmacies. Graduated cylinders and pipettes with electric filtration pumps and autoclaves doesn't make anyone an expert at the big picture.
I could go on and on but I don't really know jack shit....ask one of these Big Cookers around here....I am just a juicehead with Bro Science and maybe just a little common sense?
Anon.....ha!!
Right again, I am just talking out my neck ;-)
Im no expert on these matters but i do know that test e 300 will hold just fine at about 5 percent ba its a little thick but it works i think the challenges come in when you start pushing to 500 then you use thinner oils like eo and what not but the ester never changes i know that for sure .
AnonThe moral of a story I repeat in different words over and over:
RUN THE MG/ML AS CLOSE TO PHARMACY GRADE AS POSSIBLE.
Get off the gimmick BS blends and think for yourself, be the Captain of this game not some janitor breaking in to lab at night and knocking off a batch at University of Colorado Science Lab.
Flip side is this: Some real clean zero issues gear comes from UGL's. I like to KNOW my SRC and talk shop. i don't want to shoot my body with anything made buy ANYONE NOT PINNING EACH BATCH or under 40 years old.
I'll be keeping my SRC and not cheat on him EVER.
You make a good point