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To aspirate or not to aspirate...

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Hey Guys kind of an odd question... Lets say you are trying to pin 2cc of juice everyday. Lets take Primobolan for example. Do you draw down to the 2cc mark then aspirate the syringe to get the air out... or do you aspirate the air and draw down to the 2cc mark? The Difference would be a fraction of a cc per shot give or take because of the extra space in the syringe tip and needle...

The way ive always done it was that i aspirate the syringe and draw down to the amount of cc i need. So the needle is fully filled with juice all the way down exactly to the 2cc mark. Last week i pinned 2cc of primo everyday mon-friday to frontload 1000mg of primo in my system. On friday i barely was able to pull 1.3 cc of primo! I had to break a new bottle and fill the rest up. So Have i been slightly over dosing my shots by fully aspirating the syringe and drawing exactly to the 2cc mark because of that extra space in the needle and the syringe tip? I never even cared about this small detail in the past but this being my first primo cycle it caught me off guard because i purchased an exact amount of juice and calculated my dosages for my entire cycle... now im .7cc off lol....

Greg's picture

With the needle up, push the oil up until it is at the base of the barrel (no air in the barrel). Do not push beyond the barrel into the hub (tapered area between the barrel and needle).

Invert the syringe; the air in the hub floats to the top of the barrel.

Expel the air out of the needle by slowly pushing down on the plunger until a small drop of oil comes out of the end of the needle.

Flick the syringe with your finger to force any remaining air bubble out of the hub to the top of the barrel.

When you inject, the bubble of air in the barrel will replace the oil usually left in the hub and needle. None of it will be injected into your body.

AndroidBuilt's picture

Thanks for te detailed response bro. I tried that this morning but I still always have left over oil in the hub. I guess I need more practice lol

K.Bear210's picture

good post.. took me a minute to understand what you mean. Some people keep an air bubble at the plunger side of the syringe so it pushes out even the little bit of oil in the pin when the plunger is fully pressed. Just be sure not to take too big an air bubble and risk having it end up travel all the way through.

More importantly....

front loading primo at 1,000mg .... How do you feel? Did you get real primo? how can you even know?

AndroidBuilt's picture

I wish someone could show me visually on the air bubble trick lol. But yea the primo e I have Is from a pretty reputable source. I've had very good feedback on his primo ace and tren from a couple buddies I got gear for. I was actually trying to do a mass spec on his primo e but it can't seem to find a reliable source. This is my first primo run so I don't now what to "feel" to be honest lol

K.Bear210's picture

Its pretty straight forward, get the pin all loaded than hold syringe needle facing up and plunge till just a tiny bit of oil can be seen peeking out the needle head. Then turn needle facing down and pull back on plunger just enough to make a bubble the size of half a tic-tac. Flick it till that bubble is sitting up against the black rubber at the base of the plunger and keep it there. Pin, aspirate.. no blood? good then, plunge and the bubble should be the last thing that goes down and it will push any oil in the needle out.

If you get the primo tested, post the results man along with source review.... 99/100 times is not primo. maybe eq if your lucky.

AndroidBuilt's picture

Thanks bro. I must be retarded. After reading a few times I tried it and got it down. Easy breezy. Didn't know why I struggled lol. Yea I will definitely post the lab max results as soon as I get it

Makwa's picture

I don't know where it goes but I have never been able to get 10cc's out of a 10cc vial. Whenever calculating how many vials I'll need I figure at least 10% waste and order accordingly.

AndroidBuilt's picture

yea this particular source's oils are pretty thick and a slin pin takes forever to draw.

flacidego's picture

There's always going to be waste in a syringe even if you draw to the mark you're aiming for, just as much as you could be drawing a 10th of a ml more out of a vial because of the space in the needle where it attaches to the syringe. Always order an extra vial of your compounds to make sure you have enough. Some sources are nice and fill 10 ml vials up to 11 or 12 ml to be cool.

AndroidBuilt's picture

yea i talked to my source and he fills 10.2ml per bottle. some of my prop and test bottles seem over filled slightly but the primo looks all identical. guess ill have to order a couple more bottles lol. bummer

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