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Testosterone cyp with primobolin enthanate

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Hey guys, I'm just getting back in the game here, I am almost finished with 1 cycle of cyp, and was wondering what the best stack would be. I just want to cut and kinda bulk some for now, so I was considering a cycle of cyp with some primobolin enthanate. I was considering deca also. Which would be best? Thanks guys

showstoppa's picture

Like darth said you need to slow down bud. its real simple order your pct tomorrow and continue your cycle for 5 to 7 more weeks so 10 to 12 total. Dont go longer, you are too new for that. hit your pct hard and continue to train your ass off while off. after pct you can start planning the next cycle.

It's not a sprint my friend and at your age you need to rrally focus on your health. After pct is over you need to get blood work done before you even plan the next cycle to make sure you are fully recovered.

for a second cycle honeatly you prolly stick to just test again but run at 500 this time. you should get very good gains again. if you absolutely must add something add something as a kicker like low dosed dbol. but honestly you are better off in the long run just sticking to test the first two cycles. add an oral kick start for third cycle then on the fourth some other injectable like moderately dosed eq and extending the cycle to maybe 14 to weeks.

the key to long term gains is milking what you can out of the simpliest cycles that will allow you to grow. If you stop growing on simple cycles up the protein a 100g or so til you reach 2xs bw. if that doesnt work then maybe and i mean maybe think about adding another compound.

Mwarner's picture

Thanks for the info man! I will take it slow for sure! I realize that I'm not 20 anymore (sometimes) lol, I really appreciate the info. Any suggestions on What should my pct cycle look like? I want to get some asap! And what's the best stuff out there these days? Thanks alot

showstoppa's picture

Google power pct protocol and follow that and read a ton on here. There is a ton of info but you need to put the effort in to find it....
you know the whole teach a man to fish thing, not gonna spoon feed you.

Mwarner's picture

Right on man. Thanks

showstoppa's picture

Btw without enough calories and protein it doesn't matter what compounds you add, you will not grow. you should read a ton on this board on eating for growth. leangains is another good site for info.

also unless you have years upon years experience then you should be weighing and logging everything you put in your mouth. If you don't know what you are ingesting the. you can't make adjustments.

same with your workout plan. stick to a tried and true program and run it for 6 months or so. dont program hop. no way to track progress if you hop around program to program line a 7 year old with adhd.

Mwarner's picture

Warrior, no trt at all

Mwarner's picture

Really? I'm at 1.5 cc a week of 250 cyp. So just keep with the cyp only then?

Pale's picture

Yes, that is a great dose to start with. You will completely enjoy it.

Mwarner's picture

Thanks darth. I don't want to over due it at all for sure. So should I do another cycle of the cyp? When I am done with this one bottle? Thanks man, I'm a rookie to this stuff but my good friend is a body builder and can be tough to get ahold of.

Pale's picture

Dude you need to slow down.

Mwarner's picture

Well I am staying with the cyp but when I start the next 8weeks I was considering adding primobolin enthanate with it. Good idea or not?

Warrior1028's picture

If you are considering running Primo you need to run it at least 16 weeks to truly let it shine from what I understand 600/800mgs week.. I am currently on week 4 of a Test/Primo cycle.. Being that you are 5 weeks in, that would extend your cycle quite a bit and shut you down pretty hard in regards to recovery...

are on TRT?

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Pale's picture

And you realize he is five weeks into his first cycle right?

Warrior1028's picture

Yes.. Just saw that.. Def..not wise to run that long. I agree with you

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Pale's picture

You are new so I gave you your points back but in the future think before you post.

Warrior1028's picture

Thank you sir! and I will

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PIN_CUSHION's picture

No, stick with test. Do you have an A/I on hand? What are your plans for PCT?

Mwarner's picture

No A/I, and no pct yet. What would be best? Total rookie here guys, if you can't tell

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Get a hold of some soon or abandon cycle. You're 40 and with all due respect may not recover fully from a cycle. So that could mean sticking cold steel in your ass for the rest of your functional adult life. Not trying to scare you just the facts. Many people your age are on trt. I'm going to try and prolong it the best I can.

Mwarner's picture

Pin cushion, what exactly is a trt? I am planning on doing a pct at the end of the last bottle. Is 16 weeks too long for cyp? I'm pretty new to this. Thanks for your help

KMC's picture

TRT = testosterone replacement therapy

HRT = hormone replacement therapy

As you get older, your natural testosterone levels decrease and a Dr prescribes you,........after blood test,........real pharma grade,..........walgreens,........... more blood tests,............TRT clinics,......... etc

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Mwarner's picture

Ok. That's good to know. Thanks KMC

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Post Cycle Therapy. It's the drugs you take after a cycle to help your body start producing testosterone naturally, and for a first cycle 16 weeks is to long in my opinion.

Mwarner's picture

Ok, I knew about the pct! Just making sure I am on the right page with you! Cool I will get some and take it when I finish.
So then I should take 8-10 weeks off before I start again then?

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Rule of thumb. Time on + PCT = Time off.

Mwarner's picture

Ok. Great! Thanks a lot I really appreciate it guys

PIN_CUSHION's picture

so you're 5 weeks into a cycle and thinking about another?

Mwarner's picture

Age:40
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 250
BF%: 14%. Possibly more
When I started 5 weeks ago I was 243. I am watching my diet eating clean, and I am at 250 now.

Mwarner's picture

0 cycles. I just started 5 weeks ago and that's it. The last time I did a full cycle was in college almost 20 yrs ago. I'm 40 now.

flacidego's picture

Hi! How many cycles have you run before the one you're currently on? What would you estimate your body fat % at?

Stats
Age: 40
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 243
BF:??