posted Tue, 02/13/2018 - 01:29
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+ 2 Test subcutaneous? Anyone?
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I had to revisit this thread and revise it.
Despite the warnings about, Subcutaneous injections. I had to try it. I have found that .5 cc injections with a 31g 5/8 slin pin are the way to go for me in my quads. It takes a while to draw it and it injects slowly but no pip ever.
My theory was smaller gauge and slower injections would cause less tissue trauma and it works wonderfully fo me.
I have tried larger doses and I don’t recommend doing more than .8cc in any given place the slin syringe binds up when to try to fill it further than that.
I am sure if you use a slin pin with 27g or 26g you can do 1cc without binding issues.
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If your using slin pins.......go into your calfs mate.
Easier with help but not a must
I will test it out thumbs up
If you like pain..
I watched a programme on Netflix about doping in cycling and the doctor on there had the guy doing test sub q. Think the quantity’s were lower than we may use. He looked like he’d lost a game of paintball by the end, bruised quite bad...
Yeah you gotta make sure you have some fat to inject into. If your super lean it probably isn’t a good idea
I also watched a YouTube video of Dr. John Crisler. he uses Sub Q on his patients but the doses are 0.5 cc or less twice a week for TRT replacement.
“ some of the brothers on here have been doing it for decades so I am sticking with BroSience on this topic IM is the best option for me”
They seemed to be doing frequent jabs, I could really see much benefit the only bit of the jab you feel is through the skin. In the muscle you don’t know it’s there and your still going to be using a blue to get the oil down it.
Read this thread the mod’s go into more detail about their experiences.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/subcutaneous-...
Oil IM always unless your are hoping for an abscess
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The only thing I have done subcutaneous is growth hormone which I put about an inch from my belly button
Textbook pin, I move around for some variety.
Hahaha
Roid Noid has a post from a few years back where he ran sub-q to help deal with sides.
I was going to post a link, but I can’t say everyone likes their old stuff dug up. I thought for a moment what goth must have thought waking up seeing people drag an old post about a planned cycle up from years ago.
I like my past in the past, and I respect the guy a lot, so I won’t assume he wants his old posts drug up, but it’s an informative read if you care to dig through the search function.
Yeah I read it, thanks for pointing it out.
Thanks bro, I am pretty sure it isn’t for me. I gave it a read and kept it buried. The general consensus is don’t bother and that’s good enough for me.
Sub-Q injections is recommended by my TRT doc who also treats my Trans-male Son.
I've (We've) never had a problem with pharma injections but when I tried with a UGL product I had a bit of redness and a lump that lasted a few weeks.
According to the doc, the reason pharma grade products say IM only is because pharma only tested the drugs with IM injections and presented those studies to the FDA. There is no incentive for pharma to update or change those studies without going through a lengthy and costly process with the FDA.
That said, there is enough "independent studies" which show that sub-q injections work and are less painful and troublesome for their TRT and Trans patients.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/subcutaneous-...
Yep I read allot of the studies this weekend on the topic. I think a TRT dose would be ok but anything over that IDK.
I do like the Idea of better control of levels and less scaring.
Appreciate that one. I think I’ll give it a try when I finish this cycle. I’ve often wondered about the build up of scar tissue after half a lifetime of trt. Something I’d definitely like to avoid.
Thanks for the link.
I reckon its a simple QA issue. Latest ug trend is overdosed gear, guaranteeing the pres and solvent mix is off/not optimal... not to mention metals etc
basskiller89I hit very shallow depths for my injections. Some of the time there is some for sure that leaks sub-q. The absorption rates vs IM are not much different to the point where it matters IMO
Oil under the skin. In the lips of ahahhaha
fill your boobs dude lmao no homo
lol
Stick with IM. Some people are doing it that way with TRT but anything over .5ml and you are asking for trouble. I tried it didn't like it. I am fine with something water based like HGH or IGF at .5ml but try .5ml of oil and it just sits there like a lump and is uncomfortable.
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This study is complete nonsense.
This isn't worth the data it took to save the file.
Stick to IM
Yep thanks
Transgender sq test injections...smh lol
I should delete the link so google doesn’t think eroids is promoting the study.
AnonIf it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Couldn’t agree more
X2 never tried it but I'll stick with IM after reading all the responses
Yep experience trumps opinions every time.
Lots of good replies!
Ditto
Yes its possible but unnecessary, enjoy the golf balls under your skin!
Haha nope I will pass
Check this post. Maybe you can get some info out of it. I'm sticking with IM dont want a 2ml bubble under my skin
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/subcutaneous-...
Yep thanks bro
I read that published study. Repost on the bottom.
I feel that some treatments are plugged on the internet just to make money for a new experimental delivery system. I always lean towards the tried and true methods anyway.
I didn’t think a dose higher than TRT would be wise.
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Its bad news. If your test has crystalised in any way.... and you won't see it many times.... so im not talking about the blatantly obvious crashed test...
Anyways inject that subQ and ypu will 100% of the time develop a sterile abscess
Take preventstive measures and warms oils? Yeah ok cool but what if you forget or get lazy?
Yeah definitely don’t think it is wise especially with foreign pharmaceuticals. I was thinking about local pharma and water base only.
The possibility of a giant septic lump on my abs is not an option.
Water based is the very worst for it. Suspension just falls apsrt so easily!!!
Doesnt apply to the lypholised stuff like gh in water tho, thats obvioysly fine for subQ, just not the hornone base powders
Worst sterile absess i got was from test base
Yep for GH it works great
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AnonLast time I used the phrase "my abs" my ol lady laughed in my face, pinched my side and said "you're cute". I'm still trying to figure out if she was making fun of me.
Lol, women can be so insensitive to our egos, huh?
Responded to myself. Smooth......
Your a boss! Sweet..
Lol, gonna be a long day RV...
Made me laugh out loud!
You got that right but you better lie when she asks if she looks fat in her dress...
Hahahahha