posted Fri, 08/30/2013 - 09:30
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Test C only cycle. Possible low estro level. What do?
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Hey there,
I am at the moment 7 weeks in with my Test C only Bulking cycle(first cycle) I use as AI 0.5mg Arimidex EOD.
The gains are great, I gained 11kg/24.2lbs with some fat and water retention.
However I noticed that I am tired a lot lately, could this be a result of too low estro?
Thanks in advance!
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Anonit could be that your body and your receptors are getting used to the Cypionate so you are not necessarily tired buy you are lacking the energy that you had during the first initial phase. Keep working if you want gains. Save some of that Adex for the end when you go off if that's what you are intending to do.
Get some blood work, like yesterday.
BigBmajI get tired when my estrogen is too high. I get really painful joints when my estro is too low. I try to nestle between good blood pressure and no joint pain. Maybe everyone is different but I dose my AI as I feel needed not as an EOD, E3D, E$#%D, protocol because I swear shit changes as you move along in a cycle. There seem to be other factors that come into play that cause estrogen fluctuations. People need to learn to go by feel more. (maybe I'm copying Vike by saying this I don't know, if so I second his opinion)
Managing hormones is a feeling game for me these days. Nothing is written in stone I may totally switch shit up in a few weeks if I feel its necessary - I'm learning to trust myself I think.
For example Vike says he likes to run EQ at 1200 for 30 weeks - if I tried that and I felt like my head was going to explode - I'd make an adjustment to the dose rather than go get some more blood pressure medicine. (vike seems to be on my mind today)
RustyhookerFeeling is good after you.bb ran many and know your reactions. Long timers like novi gets estradiol up at 400 before he feels things. So the newer guys as well as vets gotta just break off the $60 and donate blod
BigBmajYeah of coarse that's best. But I would bet at this point I could guess my estrogen to a pretty accurate degree. I always hated being so sensitive in the past but when it comes to this stuff it comes in handy. But Im learning daily.
I'm not that experienced really. Just trying hard to learn.
RustyhookerTrue! I wish it was easy for everyone. But then the experimenting wouldn't be as fun.
RustyhookerAdex.....a full clue. When estro signs appear OR bloodtest at week 6 dictates
.25e3d.......if nips get sensitive .25eod....still having estro .5eod and start finding aromasin and letro asap. You maybe a NON responder. Adex is very strong and having estro is good when building mass...to a degree.
Simple math folks
.25e3d = 0.5per WEEK
.25eod = 1.0 per first week!
.5eod = 2.0 per WEEK
See the huge differences??
Thank you very much rustyhooker and everyone else. I am going to cut back in Adex as I now know how powerfull it realy is.
Thank you brother..... great info in laymans terms... anyone dont understand that math needs a fkn enema lol +3
RustyhookerWho told you .5eod?
Get blood test asap and adjust. Only bloods know the correct number. The dose you're using is huge for a tiny cycle unless your body converts that heavily
56tooI know there's some guys advocating taking AIs from the get go and I cant understand for the life of me why they wld suggest anything like that
Your right brother... it does my fkn head in the shit info that still comes out.
I went by the research I did, and found that 0.5 EOD was the appropiate dose for 500mg Test C a week.
A blood test is in my case nearly impossible to do, so I have rely on myself in this case. What dose would you suggest? 0.25mg EOD?
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/easy-way-to-get-cheap-b...
Read that link, and search for a lab around you. Bloods are so easy, there's no reason you should think they are impossible. You can do it super low key bro! Look into it, I really think you should get them done.
Just stop taking it for a week and then 0.25mg ed
My bad guys sorry and i ment 0.25mg EOD a typo that could have had bad consequences my bad guys
No worries man, No harm was done bro!
My bad guys sorry
RustyhookerI'm just snappy today....no worries. Quick blood test is easiest/fastest way. Sorry to bark
No worries it was me at fault, at the end of the day its peoples health we are dealing with so i should have taken more care with what i was saying. No hard feelings mate
NO NO NO NO ... brother stop for a moment and double check before you print totally wrong info.
RustyhookerDude! Do uou even cycle? .25 Ed is quadruple the amount of ADEX NEEDED! NOT EVEN AROMASIN IS THAT HIGH!!!!!
Yes i cycle but with aromasin. my bad sorry