posted Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:56
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Alright fellas, I have being on the game for a lil over 2 years now with 3 good cycles under my belt & 2 fail cycles that I had to end up early due to injuries(shoulders)
However, I always do PCT & then wait for a few months then cycle again, but here is the thing, I know for fact some of you EXP users blast & cruise, with that been said.
DO SOME OF YOU COME OFF CYCLE & JUMP BACK ON GEAR?
I know some of you might deny it, but serious talk right here, I have friends that get off cycle start loosing weight, they panic & jump back on cycle 2-4 weeks after coming off. I know & understand the risk as I am seriously thinking of Blast & Cruise!!! Please coment EXP users & or PROs
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I cycle and pct every time. The thought of blasting and cruising have never entered my mind. Imo I think steroids are for blowing past barriers that your stuck at and could never achieve naturally. So with that in mind it makes total sense to use and break platues. Then pct and restore my hpta. But unfortunately this point of view is in the minority nowadays.
Rick, brother, plz do the intelligent thing and pct for as long as your body will allow it. it doesn't matter what others do or say for the matter, they are not you, with your plans, dreams, and ambitions for the future. yes I'm trt and blast- cruise however I also enjoy my time not on cycle to detoxify my body. if and only if you do things right you're not going to loose much of what you gained on cycle. what I mean is, doing a proper pct, choose your compounds wisely, by not using multiple wet water weight aas, keep your nutrition in check, and train your ass off while your off cycle. you'll be amazed the quality muscle you'll retain. also by getting back on cycle after a proper detox and time off you will respond phenomenally to the compounds your using. best wishes amigo!
Speaking honestly I have gone on long cycles (6 months straight) where I took a small 2-4 week period to cruise. I've done full 12 week cycles and right into pct. and other times (more recently) I've cut cycles short or changed compounds midway and stopped abruptly without pct. I've gone long periods with no pct, no cruise Trt dose of test. I am not a good example to follow because I'm somewhat of a mutant. Something unusual is up with me and it isn't something anyone should experiment with. In a nut shell, I think the best method is going to be classic cycles of 10-16 weeks depending on the compounds and classic pct and off cycle for 3 months. It's the safest way and best way to make the next cycle more efficient. If you are someone who is trying to take it to the next level and be a competitive bodybuilder, then I would personally seek the advice of the heavy hitters here (Viking, Italian, Pmob, Trenabolic to name a few) and seek their advice. Do NOT USE someone's tag on eroids as a determining factor in AAS experience. It's not! It just speaks to the level of experience and activity on the site. Look for pro tags. Not advanced.
There is an argument that pct is traditionally supposed to be a bridge to your next cycle and not necessarily off time. More of a receptor cleanse. That is up for debate and an entirely different issue all together. But I'm not in a position to discuss it as I don't have that level of expertise in bodybuilding and cycles for BBing.
Brother... i think this thread would be the perfect opportunity to raise our convo the other day about receptor cleansing protocols....... let em have a look at the article we read.
You got it. Actually Vike you could probably present it much better and add your own spin on it. Some one with your level of experience giving anyone advice, it should be taken as if Jesus Christ himself were sitting down telling you how it is. They know your status and will be more receptive to you than anyone.
I think its time....... nobody on here is running the dosages they mention, they are on massive stacks and the "never coming off" thing is wide-spread these days......... folks are cutting when they should be bulking and vice versa ...... compounds are mixed up to fuck, nobody understand binding affinities , half -lives etc etc..... i just read one thread where the guy is desperately trying to gain weight but persists in still doing tons of cardio..WTF.... multi- oral combos, 1rep lifts when they want to be bodybuilders?.......... my head is fkn spinning bro lol
I'll say this. I've always followed good time off protocol and my off cycle test levels are those of a guy 10 years my junior. I sometimes enjoy being off cycle, good to get back to feeling normal, family stuff, not do utterly obsessed with pushing / pulling plates.
It's no doubt largely down to good fortune in my case, but I think making sensible choices should be key for those using exogenous hormones. I don't fancy TRT, I like the fact that injecting steroids is "my choice" rather that something I have to do to feel normal. If and when I gave to, so be it. Until then, I choose to follow good "off time" protocol.
Ok homies, last thing I want it was to create some kind of hostile environment for people to neg others. I respect those who blast & cruise and those who PCT. I am just gonna stay PCTing for now unless doctor says otherwise. I know this topic can result in improper advice, I was jut curious to know the answer for the question stated in my post. My apologies if my question went against Eroids ideology
I blast and cruise. I don't care to have kids some do some don't. Biggest risk if you are keeping yourself under control and properly checked out by a doctor, is that you will need to use testosterone for the rest of your life.
That is not true. TRT has risks in and of itself. You also have to remember that long term TRT is still a fairly new medical treatment.The FDA is right now investigating the use of trt.
I think you should read this.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2701485/
I negged you on accident but I'm not taking it back because this was an immature answer by a 25 year old kid. You're not old enough whether you know it or not that was a stupid response. Trust me you will see why some day whether you actually have children or not.......
I dont blast/cruise and honestly you will loose weight and get freaked out after cycle. However, you could also freak out if you permanently have to get injections for the rest of your life! I Pct bro, as long as i can keep my natty test up, no need to B.a.c. Think about this long and hard, (no pun intended).
True bro, no offense taken as I was looking for comments like yours, I like to heard people's opinion. How many years have you been using AAS?
Since i was 21, now Im 32 so 11 years.Not 11 years straight, my first cycle was at 21 and second cycle at 25. I Had that vision of me being fcking 65 and still having to jab myself with a needle every week. I hate getting off too brother,but honestly what if you couldnt get juice during your b.a.c.? You will be s.o.l.. There is too many factors that can happen to just b.a.c., honestly i hope you make the right decision. What if you lost your job,went to jail or was hospitalized during b.a.c.? These are all things could go wrong and you wouldnt be able pin gear during those times. Its not worth it for me homie, think long and hard. Godspeed
Wise words bro, I love this community because of comments like this one
No one is gonna admit it if they. I believe that many do blast and cruise, but you will not get anyone to admit to it.
I though so bro...
No one with a brain is going to answer this question. And even if a "pro" said he did, your not a pro. It's the old if he jumped of a bridge would you...
Do you have children?
I have 4
Well then I've got nothing lol
When I read about young guys blasting and cruising my first thought it kids. If you have them, my second question would be what about your balls? But I'm a girl so all my knowledge on this topic is second hand so I'm not much help at all.
The fact that I might want kids when I'm older is maybe the only reason I won't blast and cruise.
We'll that's the thing, I had a testicular hernia back when I was kid, long story short, one of my nuts is smaller than the other one after the surgery, which leads me to believe I might need Test regardless. I know I wanna be on bodybuilding for life not so sure about the whole blast & cruise as I know it's a lifetime commitment
Wouldn't blasting and cruising make your balls basically disappear? I know guys can use hcg to avoid that while on cycle but does it work long term?
It does as far as I know... But I believe don't matter what, the testis will suffer atrophy at some point after a bunch of years of usage but not so sure as I am basically a beginner
NOTE: I have done 3 12 week cycles an my nuts never shrink completely, for whatever reason they manage to stay puffy lol
Well good luck on whatever you decide just make sure you know everything before hand.
Thanks
RustyhookerWhy blast n cruise til you must? Learn foods and heavy lifts. It's a pain but that's the goals. Longevity
Absolutely agree with you. I remember asking a respectable member here, probably the most experience user here "do yo ever jump back on cycle before recovering" his answer was yes. I know here we preach the opposite, not sure if this kind of questions should be ask in a PM to avoid to hurt some people's feelings lol
Don't need to be Exp or Pro to know no one is ever going to co-sign a 27 year old staying on year round without any legit reason other than wanting to 'Blast + Cruise'.
I consider Exp & Pro to almost anyone here with a lil common sense specially since I'm only a 2 years user, not necessarily means you have to have a PRO/EXP tag
Karma isn't the best way to determine credibility. And there's a lot of low karma guys who blast and cruise and a lot of adv and exp who do pct. and the people who lose there gains and them jump right back on either are way over there genetic potential, or there diet and training sucks. I only lose the water I gained when I come off cause I know how to eat and train and I also knkw the adjustments that need to be made during pct when your hormones are so low and cortisol is so high. Check out my post on how to pct and keep gains. You can't just keep doing things exactly the same as you were when your test levels were 10 times higher and now you have no test and high cortisol . Some things need to be adjusted for a little while.
You continue to show you are wise beyond your years.
True that, thanks for your input
This is probably best kept to private messaging fella.
I know, that's why I would like to heard some feedback & also is a taboo
Might interest you mate.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/cycling.-do-it
Yeah mate it is a great read & makes a lot of sense, specially when ED talks about the big black dude in jail :o