Steroids in moderation (doseage topic)
So I was having a conversation or a disagreement with an old Body builder friend, this guy is old school.
As he knows, I take up to 1mg of drugs (Test+Deca+....combined) a week of that suits w/e cycle I'm on (bulking/cutting)for 10 or 12 weeks. He disagrees claiming that I'm going to suffer the consequences in the long run. Basically saying that I'm taking too much and I'm going to destroy health.
Now this guy is like 50 yrs and has alot of wisdom thats why i try not to disrespect him. He claims he won competitions with very little drug usage such as
250mg of test every other week (I know im like WTF)
75mg of tren a week
Var 5 mg a day
These dosages don't make sense.
Now can goals (like gaining 7 lb of muscles per cycle) really be met through dosages like these. See its not really clear why people use the dosages they use. Like the recommendations for newbs is 500mg a week but for pros or people who have 15-20 cycles under their belt its 2-3 g of test a week. I got a friend who takes that a week. Its very unclear to me, how do u know what dosage matches you.
It seems to me like people sometimes compensate for their training by taking more drugs. but again How do u know how much to take. Is 500 mg of test too much? i'm like confused , I might just lower my doses but by how much so I can still make gains
Now this coming from me and my perspective as u all might know, I'm 25, 7 cycles under my belt, but i have seen the most results with 1mg of drugs a week, but if the results im getting are possible with less drugs then Im all ears
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I agree with Viking, but I also found the trick for me is to change up the doses and compounds every few weeks to keep the body off guard. I do NOT do traditional cycles. Sometimes I'm cruising on 400 Test E per week, other times I'm blasting on 4000 Test E per week. I go where my gains lead me.
Cleyon4000!!!! Dang your wallet's a lot deeper than mine!
I don't keep that up for long---about 4 weeks----long enough to get the long esters flowing and then back it down and prop out and into another compound.
But depending on where you like to shop, yeah it can get costly.
CleyonI'd say so! But I get the front loading concept. I guess I like front loading with short esters, and then cutting those out when the long esters come in.
Genetics has alot to do with how any of us respond to differing amounts/dosages... same thing happens with protein , i know guys that grow eating 1800 cals and tiny amounts of pro... others eat massive and dont budge in weight... thing with roids i would say if still getting results from a low dose stick with it until gains cease completely,that would be the trigger to up the dose and commence gaining again... talking about mega dosages i got to 260lb once and could not no matter what i did get any heavier so at that stage i realised i was wasting gear,dropped back the dosage and hey presto held the body weight for a few years... paid the price though due to creating stretch marks that will never go away.
cdaddy7Precisely, Big Vike!! Genetics play a huge part in this. Just ask my calves! LOL That's why I say steroids are "enhancing" not "creating". More is def not better in this case contrary to popular belief
"Moderation" that's a word for pussies and those who want to live long, healthy and happy lives
That's where you really gotta listen to YOUR body. I grow very well on teeny cycles. But i rely on food and gym most. Yes..i got fat when elbow broke two months back :(. Point is my current ebc cycle is small yet i'm up 14 lean pounds. So for me personally i combine a stack thurs synergetic and jack my proteins up and eat thru my 18hr days. Other folks aren't as responsive so they run bigger cycles. On here i advise slow gradual adds. I don't believe in drastic changes with gear unless for a specific need. If you can't grow on a base cycle it's definitly food/training that's your error. Point being if i can put on 12lbs with my sissy cycles....i fully believe that running a moderate starter cycle should blow up even a crappy dieter/trainer within reason.
this is crazy, i know a person on my gym that also claims that he grows on 150mg of test and 150mg of tren a week. according to him, he been cycling for 6 years.
i guess low doses work for others and for others dont.
zewiyou said TREN.. that's why he is growing.