+ 1 Speculation on PRO BodyBuilder Cycles
These types of threads are an inadvertent danger.
What generally happens is that a curious individual will open a post to speculate on what a Pro BB is taking. Then other memebers chime in and start spewing ridiculous dosages and compounds. These claims to compounds and dosages are always followed by the attestation "well I know this because I know a few pros".
Great, now all of a sudden your ridiculous claim is valid because you "know" someone who is pro, taking XYZ compound in set dosages. Not only that, you stated XYZ compound / dosage to a curious individual who may have claimed they aren't interested in being a pro; but might give that stated cycle a try to see what it brings them.
Let's keep the hearsay and bro-science bullshit to a minimum. Most pros are not going to openly talk about what they take and how much they take. If they confide in others it is generally trainers, fellow competitors and close friends. Speculation that they all cruise on 2grams of test year round is BS and shouldn't be advertised to the uninitiated.
Like I've said before and as many will agree with, drugs are not what mold the physique. Johnny Gym rat could take exactly the same compounds at the same dosages and duration as Ronnie Coleman and guess what, the chances of stepping on an Olympia stage for Johnny gymrat are still slim to none. Genetics, training, diet, recovery / drugs. That's the order of importance for building a pro physique. Any attempt to use drugs to compensate for a lack of the other stated factors would result in a myriad of health problems, and an extremely short bodybuilding career.
Mr Olympia is generally regarded as someone who is a genetic marvel. The first and only Mr Olympia to die was Sergio Olivia at 71 years old. If drugs were the deciding factor for all pros, then surely all of these Mr Olympias would be keeling over left and right; instead of guys who haven't experienced the same amount of success, yet drugged themselves into a pro status in spite of their genetics.
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That and our massive testosterone doses. I doubt they used 3 Grams of test per week back in the 70's
HGH and Insulin.
Those pros you see walking about aren't like that because they went from 1g to 1.5g of Tren. It's because they're using copious amounts of very high quality growth hormone and insulin.
WithdrawlI agree with you. My buddy will probably get his pro card this year and HGH and insulin brought him to that freaky next level. It really makes a big difference.
aylmejoreghhh its still pretty much all drugs