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Many of you ,like myself,have to work all day...Or,at least attend work and hang out on Eroids till 5pm ...I have heard about a lot of people missing their deliveries and having to go to the post office to pick it up.Let me give you a solution that I am sure most of you already know....LEAVE A NOTE ON THE DOOR!

include your name and date with the tracking number on top.

TO USPS,
I stepped out briefly,please leave my package at the door an accept this as my signature if needed.I assume all responsibility.Thank You.....then date and sign.......Your package should be there when you get home!

Guys,this has never failed me.Most all of my international deliveries have required a signature.If your not sure,it cant hurt to leave this anyway..However,I assume no responisibility..If your house gets robbed because you left this note.its not my fault!

norcuron's picture

interesting discussion. lots of good info exchanged in the banter.

tonytulo's picture

Federal agents do not always pick it up as we have seen on here before. They make the choice to pick it up or not..... Watched it happen to members and sources. Basically to an extent it comes down to your record and your lawyer. An it comes down to the case, the judge, the lawyer. Its not about one thing that gets you pinned its the stack of things for example. You get a few packs over the year, you sign for one and that is probable cause to search your house period, they search your house do they find weapons also drugs and guns together bad hit , needles, oils, orals, a laptop or a PC with a trail on it and don't think if you clear your cookies and browser your goog bahahaa , they look at your phone they take everything into consideration. It depends on how much of a hard on the lead investigator has , how much of a hard on the judge has etc etc. Everyone always say oh I only get little packs blah blah blah I've had a state bid and a fed bid I was locked up with guys who had one charge and because the proscuter was a hard ass and the judged was too they didn't get a slap on the rist and a small fine....... But for all those who read Smile think what you want..... I've watched friends get hit with little shit and the feds picked it up and I've watches people get hit hard and nothing happened. You don't know if there is a prior investigation on the source , the shipper or even you. Its the luck of the draw......

vhman's picture

I don't disagree with what you're saying, I'm just saying we're still at risk.
Everyone says "I only have personal use" and that will protect me, because they're after the big guys. That's usually the case, but not always. I've seen them go after small time users to send messages and such.
Just want people to have all the information so they can make an informed decision, as to what their comfortable with. Good topic.

Drop-set's picture

People are living in la la land if they think no sig will keep them out of court...

TheFlash85's picture

i never get stuff sent with tracking, so no signature required, it comes down to a trust worthy source, if your going to bite the bullet on a new source you don't trust, probably good to sign and track, other than that, no need, it costs more anyway, either way, you cant be held responsible for what gets sent to your address, the trick to learn is leave no paper trails or cyber trails, cover those tracks first, the rest is just here say.

so tips- dont use your home pc from your own house with your own ip address, dont use real names on the sources website, if you have to donate at a post office that requires i.d get someone else to do that, a chick with no record what so ever is a favorite of mine, and email address should be encrypted and fake also, this way your tracks are covered, and if the cops come knocking, why would a young girl in her late 20s with no record order that stuff?? she was expecting make up, must be a mistake.

Bulkdaddy's picture

I just draw a line on the signature part so if they try and compare the hand writing...

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juicer1165's picture

You should only ever be required to sign for international deliveries. Never domestic. If ever you are asked to sign for a domestic package, I personally would not do it.
This is why I do not order international. But if you do, as stated below, know your mailman/mail woman and also know the Subs. If something doesn't smell right, deny its yours, refuse to sign and tell them to take it back. BEWARE of what LE calls controlled deliveries.

konig's picture

My mailman's nickname is Santa Claus.. he's always got the goods, wears the attire in the month of December, and looks just like him except not as big Lol!!

tonytulo's picture

No but when they pull a print and search the residence your fucked. It doesn't come down to what happens in court , search warrents are easy to get,a print and a signature . Than when they find shit in the residence, pull your PC, look at your physique etc etc now the court case gets stronger...........

vhman's picture

If no one witnessed your signature it wont hold up as your signature

That's a slippery slope. You never know what they will uphold or not. Signature or not, the note shows knowledge and intent.

crazymofo's picture

If it is a controlled delivery getting the signature wouldn't matter from the LE's point. What they get is probable cause to search the residence. So once they search and find the person's stash its over. They can prove you knowingly had possession of a controlled substance. And I have been busted before myself for other things and I even beat the case on the one big charge I got so I have been through the ringer on this shit. That's why I never have shit sent to my house.

Pale's picture

Get familiar with your mailman or woman as it were. If it isn't your regular mailman delivering be wary of accepting. Sure they take days off and in that case if possible pay attention to who the usual sub is.

fusebox's picture

Not only that but I buy him/her a gift for the holidays such as a gift card to the local butcher for a holiday ham or Turkey. I leave it I a card in the mailbox addressed to them. Don't forget the stamp though as if they accept it without it is still against the law.

vhman's picture

This isn't a bad idea.
The downside is that you can't claim any deniability about the package if things go south.

tonytulo's picture

Bingo

Oldermuscle41's picture

That's exactly what I was thinking! Lol! Your basically telling them you know you have a package coming thus you likely know what it contains!! No way out of that one..

chopper41's picture

Good idea of you live in a decent area not so much if you live in a shithole area as I do, lol

Dickkhead's picture

Labs get busted all the time. When LE grabs the customer list - it puts a little layer of insulation between you and the lab. And you're right - I do get a lot of shit frequently and sometimes a lot of product if there is a sale.

juiceball8082's picture

Tru

Dickkhead's picture

Or, you can rent a P.O. box from, for example, the UPS store - tell them is is a business mail box and give them a list of names from the company that will be getting mail there and that you have the authority to pick up all mail.

Advantages:

1) You can order using a fake name - if you don't already
2) They will sign for your package when it arrives
3) The UPS store will send you an email when the package arrives with the tracking number so you know when your shipment gets there
4) The UGL will never have your home address in its records

juicer1165's picture

Great idea but doesn't always work. Depends who working and how much of a stickler they are about the rules. And also what those rules are from state to state. Not only was I asked for photo ID. I was asked for back up I'd. When I said I didn't have one, they told me to go outside and bring them my car registration. If you own that box, and they got your real name, it don't matter what names in the package.
, you got problems. Maybe you beat it in court, maybe not. But you got a problem to deal with!

Dickkhead's picture

My box is owned by a LLC. So, for me you would have to get into a multi-member LLC with its partners to try to figure out what is going on. But, I live in Florida and that works here. Your point about it depending on the state is a good one, though.

crazymofo's picture

Boom this right here! I did this and used a prepaid visa to get the box so the payment is not traceable. I rented it online and when I went down to get the key from the office they never even asked for ID.

And even if you do have to sign for it just make it illegible. The signing has more to do with completing the bailor Bailee agreement then record keeping.

aronl's picture

Doesnt the UPS store require valid photo ID to set up the PO box?

juiceball8082's picture

Good idea but hate signing.