Shoulder issues
I know a lot of you have had your share of injuries and joint problems. Now I'm having my own and looking for advice.
I first noticed a pain in my shoulder a couple years ago doing shoulder presses on a smith. Kind of felt like a pop/grinding and a lot of very temporary pain. So I stopped doing that exercise with heavy weight and tried to to be careful for a while with the shoulders. Last June I was doing dumbell benching and felt it again but was so into the workout I ignored the pain, then was out of commission for upper body for a couple of months. After a lot of swimming and rest I judged it to be ok with painless pull ups. I've just been trying to take it easy since. Unfortunately the problem seems to be getting worse. I haven't lifted in a month and about to start pct next weeks, so test is currently crashing.
Over the past couple of months and especially the last month or so I've noticed that if I put my hands up with elbows and armpits at 90 degrees, then swivel them down like doing hand signals; I can feel grinding and popping in the shoulders. It is painful when I feel the grinding as well. This scares me and I'm worried there might be some degenerative defect going on. I need to get back to lifting asap but I don't want to cause further serious damage. Depression, alcoholism and now this shoulder issue contributed to me failing in this cycle, well sort of, I'm thinking I may be keeping 6 pounds of lean muscle, so not a total loss but I know it could have been sooooo much better.
I'd like to hear some experiences. I'm going to call my doctor in the next couple of days and have her take a look but we all know they aren't as smart as they'd like us to think. I'm considering TB500 as well. I'd love to get some pharma hgh but I can't afford that shit.
Input/advice?
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Update
Went to the doc last week. Regular doctor was on vacation so some dude I've never seen before who seemed really lazy, smelled like butts and had a fat fuckin gut was there to check me out. After a very brief check, he said 'i don't think we need xrays, doubt it's bone related. probably will need an mri. but here, take naproxen and go to physical therapy. if that doesn't make it better then we'll get an mri.''
alright man. so I went to the pt today. The dude there spent a good amount of time looking at it. He thinks I should have just gotten the mri, just like I had thought, why try to fix something when you don't know what the problem is... He believes the issue is a tear in the cartilage that the head of the humerus sits in. But anywho, I'm gonna keep going to pt, then probably end up getting the MRI.
Do a couple of pt sessions then just say it's causing you severe pain. Should expedite the MRI process.
From the reading it sounds very similar to what I dealt with for several years prior to having surgery last fall. Slap tear of the labrum is what mine was and your symptoms sound like you have the same. I had adjusted exercises and weights to keep training but it kept getting worse. Final straw was going to the rifle range to site in a new deer rifle. Kick seemed a little more than what I typically felt but being a hard head I kept going. Couldn't sleep that night due to pain, and it started locking whenever I would try and reach overhead. MRI only showed 1 tear, but when my surgeon got in there to fix it he found 5! Go see a ortho soon would be my advice.
Thank you for all the replies. I have a dr appt tomorrow. I'm going to see what they have to say before adding supplements and peptides. I'm assuming there going to be little help, but this is what health insurance is for.
RustyhookerDefinitly see your doctor. Nowadays ortho surgeries are easier. If it's just old age then i sure would not submit to cortisone shots. I'd research forums by Nitti on joint builders. Forums on tb500.. And as stated very well below the glucosamine/crondroitin and oils.
If doctor clears you and healing goes well, avoid overly dry compounds like tren,, Winny etc. var,eq have shown some healing properties. Nors like deca lube the joints but can also mask the injuries.
Smith shoulder presses injure more people in my gym. I avoid that thing. Anytime you lift in unnatural position you can easily injure. Compare standing press with upper body swing/movement vs smiths solid no upper movements.
Alcohol and depression are best friends. Im not going to preach. I like a couple shots here n there. You know what you gotta do.
Your absolutely right on the smith, the number of guys I know that have destroyed rotator cuffs on smith machines. It's not a natural groove to push in. I was never a big user of them anyway, but I can't press on them in any way since shoulder surgery.
Had it I both shoulders, the left being the worst. The only steps I took was to avoid heavy weight, never use a smithmachine for shoulder press or bench press. It sounds simple put like that buts it's finding alternative exercises, for shoulder press id do it stood up with palms facing in, it seemed to take the stress out of the joint this way. I'd drop barbell bench, flat n incline for dumbell presses, and drop dumbell flyes for cable crossovers but dont cross over that'll stress elbows more aswell.
I still feel it in my left rear delt, even thought it's ok now, I could wake up tomorrow after sleeping in an awkward position and itd be fukd for a few weeks.
Ininjuries are a bitch, dint even get me started on my lower back lol. Hope things work out for you bro, the better your in tune with your body the better things will be towards recovery.
RustycanI was gonna say it could be degenerative (steady getting worse as we get older) but you're only 30 dude. I'm 42 and I got plenty of shit popping and cracking (crepitus) but the pain now that's a diff story. Times 10 on the fukn doctors not knowing as much as they think they do. I'm sure some people better qualified than me are gonna jump on here and offer you some sound advice. All I can offer is glucosamine chondroitin which is supposed to help the joints and then deca and EQ which is also supposed to. I been around the gym for a minute and just about everyone I've known has injured their shoulder at some point or another. I will also add; I've never really heard anyone say anything positive, only regret from being cut on for torn rotators
RustyhookerCrepitus. My old shoulders and joints make noises from years of abuse. No bad pains. But agree with your post!
I am getting up there in age and after 25+ years of lifting weights my joints finally started screaming at me. My elbows and knees were the worst. I have had to adjust my lifting to routine to using lighter weights and increasing the time under tension and using strict controlled form for the whole range of motion. No more heavy weights for me. I feel like a new man now. No tendonitis in my elbows and I can kneel down without everything popping and cracking. Even though I am lifting much lighter weights now, I am still packing on muscle. So this may be something you might want to consider in the future after you get your shoulder checked out. Popping and grinding in the shoulder does not sound good. Best to get it checked out and corrected sooner rather than later. Best of luck.
RustyhookerTried to copy and paste but couldnt. George Farrah kai green seminsr Ireland. 53 min video covers what your saying.
I'll google it. Thanks.
Oh, yeah! 8 time Mr. O, Lee Haney famously used lighter weights and did ok with it. Now he's over 50 and no real joint probs.
RustycanYea Mak what you said about the lighter weights. We know it mentally makes us all feel like inadequate pusses but we also all know that quality gains can still be achieved with lighter weight.
RustyhookerMy knees get sore easily as I'm aging. Like mak said, i went on hipsled fron 650@10 down to 375@15 reps. Legs added mass and no pain like before. Better pump and speed wobbles leaving the gym. 8-10 sets like that on the different angles have been nice