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I have looked up forums on this topic and all of them are from 3 to 8 years ago. I wanted to know How UGL stacks up to pharma grade. I have used only pharma grade exemastane and nolvadex stuff like that but not testosterone or Deca or any stuff while going on cycle. Maybe it’s something I have to use myself. Wanted to know if it feels better on cycle or the sides are better or gains.
Thank you

Eagles 2013's picture

I prefer UGL oils due to the blends and higher concentrations. I use pharma for HCG and PCT, but there are a few select UGL GH's I will use due to extensive history of consistently positive reviews and my past experience.

Just know that there is a WIDE range of UGLs and it is not a good "catch all" term. There is UGL in the top 10 here that is comparable to pharma quality and there is UGL that is dosed properly but probably cooked in a bath tub in Russia. Do extensive research before picking a UGL and don't chase that bargains because you will get what you pay for in a $10 jug of test prop!

Achak's picture

This is a good one. I have done both.

I prefer Pharma for HGH. I just don't trust generic. I don't care what fancy packaging you have. There is too much fake or poor quality gh on the market.

I prefer UGL for oils because I like blends and high mg products that pharma doesn't produce.

Tabs are hit or miss with UGL. I hate caps and won't use a brand that produces them. I normally go for UGL tabs due to price and wanting high mg. The idea of popping 5mg pharma dianabol tabs compared to a 50mg UGL is a no brainer to me.

Ancillaries I usually go for research chemical companies. I like the more precise dosing of a liquid and the cost. I have had good experiences so never saw the need to buy tabs.

tahsin's picture

Pharma and UGL!!
Pharma grade: Assburn Sustanon (Turkey)
And UGL Phartalot labs

Both are top notch man!

fusebox's picture

Not taking karma but as bill stated no source or brand talk in the open forum. Read the rules

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/forum-rules/the-rules

Bill1976's picture

Can’t talk labs or sources in open forums. Please edit.

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tahsin's picture

Oops didn't know the post is not editable atm.

BJ's picture

I wish the United States would have a pharmacy grade Primo (tabs & injectable)! I always wondered why the US drug companies never carried that drug! Even back in the day 70’s/80’s/90’s it came from EU/Mexican/South American pharmacies!

Bill1976's picture

Never took primo

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BJ's picture

Really? Awesome drug when it’s pharma grade! Just think about it; was one of Arnold’s favorite!

Bill1976's picture

I was going to run it next summer. I started steroids two years ago at 42 years old. Still new to this but there is so much I want to try.

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Bill1976's picture

Oops

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fusebox's picture

I agree and was about to post that response but read the thread first. It might be pharma label but it could very well be faked as I've seen many labs and pictures of pharma hear being faked

GrowMore's picture

There are different pharmaceutical grade to take into account.

USA
India
Turkey
China
Moldova

To name a few. Some are more pharma than others.

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Bill1976's picture

This is one answer I was looking for also. I know some of these countries I order pharma from but wasn’t sure how it stacks up to US pharma. I usually order Moldovan aromasin

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GrowMore's picture

Moldovan is the the only pharmaceutical, if you can call it that gear I’ve tried. Apparently it’s used it Moldovan hospitals. I definitely noticed the quality difference.

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IrishWOLFhound's picture

With pharmacy you know 100 percent your always going to get the real deal. No underdosed shit, you can't always trust uvl even if they have good reviews.

If you can get it from a real pharmacy id go with that, here in ireland it's impossible, I have an email source here in EU who I've used for years but he sell test directly from a pharmacy for 200euro or more lol

Blaaahdk's picture

200 EU pr 10 ml ?

Pxpxp's picture

I suggest you buy a vial and test it. UGL works just fine for me. My prescription does the same as the sources I use. But all these guys know what they are talking about and point out some good differences.

It’s very rare you’ll get a script for deca (maybe therapeutic doses), so we all need to rely on UGL. So unless you have a hook up, and you want to try other compounds, UGL will be probably your only way of getting it.

It’s scary, but I like that people use the stuff and give their reviews. It definitely helps me trust the source a bit more.

+1 for a good topic.

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Bill1976's picture

Do you think that pharma grade aromasin is real that sources are selling. They have major brand name aromasin.

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IrishMack's picture

Pharmacy grade and ugl is separated by one major key factor, production.
Pharmacy is made in the strictest clean rooms and the raws are tested for metals and other impurities. Most ugl's only test to make sure it has the compound they are selling because it is very expensive to test for all impurities. If ugl's practiced the same methods you would be paying 3-500 a vial for it. My script, without insurance, is 300 for 10ml of cyp. That's at the discount store. With Insurance I pay 75.00.

Nicolai's picture

True authentic pharmacy grade testosterones, decanoate durabolin, and oxandrolone do exist. But, they are only created in real laboratories that follow code & strict procedures. You just need a true authentic prescription or a plug. Test needs a script for legitimate TRT deficiency. Decanoate for osteoporosis and muscle wasting diseases. Oxandrolone or Oxandrin for burn victims. It's like I said though - legitimate drugs for legitimate reasons. Not performance enhancin.

One reason legitimate pharmacy grade drugs are better is straight up due to the raws being exactly what they are supposed to be, no cuts or dilutes. A true pharmacy doesn't try to fuck with their products to make a few extra cash. Another is that their sterilization process and chemistry is done by tried and true professionals. People with degrees who take their career very seriously. Besides, companies aren't trying to catch a case and get sued for bogus shit either. There's minimal room for contamination and compromised meds.

I've seen test be made in a microwave, with no idea of how much actual test is in the vial. It's scary shit, but research on UGL's are crucial broski. Some UGL's are straight up serious though, and actually work with lab techs and trained chemists who practice sterile techniques and don't cut or dilute gear.

BUT don't be absolutely terrified of UGL's. I remember when GNC was cutting sups with actual sand, from the fucking beach!

BJ's picture

I did an experiment with my TRT! I used 120 mg a week of a brick and mortar pharmacy grade test cyp! The name brand!!! I had run out because I only get a certain amount of refills and if you don’t go in and do your bloodwork religiously the doctor won’t do another script! Soo, I ended up using a bottle of underground lab stuff one time I had laying around! Not the same... not as good! I even took 200mg a week of the UDG stuff & it felt inferior! I think it has to do with the purity. 200mg of real pharma grade from pharmacy is 99% purity & is gonna work better than 200mg of 95% purity udg gear.

addicted.to.pain's picture

In truth Bill there is no more Pharma at-least in my experience there isn't .

I've seen Pharma Grade Testosterone Cypionate a few times and I've seen some Generic brand Pharma SERMS and AI's and some HGH but out side of that Pharma is a myth in my opinion.

These sites that sale Pharma Deca or other name brand Pharma AAS all of that stuff is fake , Real Pharma name brand Steroids have not been around since like the 80's maybe a little later.

UGL is the only real option when it comes to AAS , Which is terrible if you think about it because they have absolutely no regulations or Standards that are enforced. In the end we are completely at the mercy of these UGL's they may talk a big game but its a shot in the dark really.

AAS should be Legalized and Regulated end of story.

Bill1976's picture

What about the real stuff from an American brick and mortar pharmacy? Is there a big difference?

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maddogg's picture

I started my last cycle with 1 10 ml vial of pharmaceutical test cyp manufactured in an EU country. Then I switched to a top name ugl of test e. It could have been that, initially I feel great on cycle and make great gains, and maybe I just hit a wall, or the Pharma was just better. About two weeks into the ugl bottle my sex drive wasn’t as pronounced, and my gains slowed. I did blood work on the ugl test e I used and it came back okay. I need to post it up. Cyp is slightly more test per dose, but it might have been better as well.