posted Sun, 08/16/2015 - 05:25
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PED testing in military
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I know it has been discussed before on eroids, but I am looking for a more updated perspective (the post on eroids is from 2011 and most of what is online is pretty updated).
So, do they test? Or is it still just the normal 15 panel drug test of most urinalyses?
Everything I have heard and read points to the test being requested on the commander's discretion (i.e. the service member displays atypical behavior, rapid weight increase, paraphernalia, etc.).
Just wondering if anyone concurs or has a more updated perspective.
PS - to piggyback, does anyone have experiences with PED causing a false positive (to include AIs)
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AnonThey don't test on a regular basis or part of your ua but command ordered testing is way up in the last few years. Just be careful and know your command
The ped test is commander directed due to the expense of the test. Someone in your direct chain of command would have to bring it up to the commander and provide reasons for the testing. For example you beat the shit out of someone for no reason or you were 150 soaking wet with rocks in your pocket and 3 months later your are an absolute beast.
I sure as hell hope they dont test for PED's. Cannot think of a more appropriate environment to have an edge than the battlefield. Id feel better knowing our Men and Women in uniform have the option of gaining that edge should they desire without fear of discharge or court marshall.
As far as policy.....I have no clue lol. Just wanted to state my piece
I juiced in the marines and never got tested. I kept my shit put up though. And there is some new thing. That if they ask you to take a drug test of any kind. I'm not sure what its called. But there is paper work that you can request that you fill out that you feel like your being singled out and they have to steroid test the whole company. A buddy of mine on the army did that. He got big in afghanistan and they accused him of steroids. He was a engineer. And he requested for the paperwork. I can ask him if you really want to know. He said I feel I'm being singled out I request paperwork such and such. And the officer dropped it and never brought it back up. He was natural though. I've found in infantry type positions its overlooked don't leave gear or syringes out. Keep them locked up, if you have a place to store in town even better.
Never heard of the paperwork. Would be interesting to find out.
You think the same lax standards are upheld at formal schools?
I would wait until after schools and training. I waited until after boot camp and infantry school. If I really wanted to I could have done it in infantry school. Once I learned the layout. Since you get to leave the base on weekends go rent s locker out in town and can get by injecting once a week with long esters. Last thing you want is a health and comfort inspection and your gear or syringes are found. I'd wait until you got in the fleet. But if you must go rent a storage unit or something. Don't keep anything at school. I don't think a school would drug test like that. If you do juice. Just keep your mouth shut its no ones business. And don't use compounds that will put massive weight quickly or give you moon face. Wouldn't hurt to keep some creatine, whey, and some.bcaa, vitamins around in your personal stuff. So if anyone does start noticing. You have all kinds of legal supplements in your possession on base. Not sure if your already in and past boot camp and this is your mos school. Some go on for 6-12 months. But you can get by with it, just keep everything off base. Keep legal supplements. And play stupid if anything. If people make jokes. You can say ya right I'm terrified of needles, I don't want bitch tits, my dick and nuts to shrink and not work. I dont want fake muscle i work hard to get the muscle i have. Whats rhe point in cheating and losing your muscle afterwards. Natural gains are way more impressive its real etc etc. And see all the creation and bcaas I take and my diet plan I stick to. Kinda play stupid. The general media tells people it shrinks your dick which it doesn't. So just play into the media hype of how dangerous they are
Your good buddy... It is up to the commander! So basically behave yourself and just keep on the low. I pissed everyother week it seemed like and never had no problems.
You will be fine I reccomend getting a uniform a size biger that way when you start it wont be as noticeable also don't tell anyone about it just say you have been eating more but like the others stated a ton of people juice you will be fine just stay under radar
In my experience, testing is done if you look on, hang out in a group of huge dudes, etc. Rumored for selling.
Keep training to put specific combat related sports like mma. Don't get yoked in the gym alot. Do alot of cardio.
I'd stick to things that don't require any gear on base. Get a storage unit out in town and don't let anyone know
If you got a storage unit out of town my question is, if I live on Air Force base housing.. Not the dorms since I'm married how will I get it mailed there without getting caught? My biggest fear or concern is, how do I get it through the military police gate and how to I get it mailed there since I'm
Sure they check mail that comes in to the base housing?
yeah that has been my experience as well, but I was wondering if there has been any recent policy change. somewhere (maybe here), I read they are mandating testing of 1000 specimens or something like that?
From my experience the military is cheap brother. There is only a few things they care about! Juice is not one of them! High PT score makes your superiors look better. Don't sweat it. They are cutting back troops I don't think they are spending more money on a drug test modification. there are only 2 places that can test for AAS in USA...it cost a lot of money and it comes out your units budget!
you are absolutely right. i know of people who have never worried about it; however, I was thinking along the lines of the standards changing once you go to a normal school vice just getting piss tested in the fleet.
where did you read that? 99% of the spec ops guys are juicing no one is testing them ..
Two sources from other forums were particularly dicey:
1) http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/military-steroid-tes...
2) https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/the-military-members-drug-te...
"5.1.1.3. By a random sampling of urine specimens. Each Service is required to test at least 1000 random specimens for anabolic steroids every 2 years."
tracking that it goes on in all branches at some level, just checking to see what y'all thought.
In all the years I was in the service there was not one mention EVER of testing for steroids. Of all the cases that I have heard of t since I ve been out it was at the CO's discretion and that was IF they didn't like you.
I was air force special operations for 4 years. A lot of our guys were on gear. We were never tested. And nobody cared. The only dudes I ever saw get busted throughout our community was the ones that got caught distributing, or they had a big mouth.
Could you imagine trying to pack a company size group of eroiders in a cattle truck?
Thanks for the advice!
Lol this , I worked with spec ops. We all juiced like wild. If they did testing there wouldn't be seals, Rangers, controllers , gunners etc
I am quite well aware ;-) lol
They would only test you IF they wanted you gone. If they need you, they would test someone else.
yes, that is generally the case.
as stated just wondering if standards have changed. specially when it comes to formal schools.
You got that right ;-) lol