posted Fri, 05/24/2013 - 14:26
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PCT Labs
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Has anyone run post cycle labs just before a standard Nolv/Clomid PCT and then run another lab about 20 days into PCT?
If not would anyone who is about to go on PCT consider taking a lab right after cycle before PCT and then another lab about 20 days into PCT?
Thanks,
C.H.
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I've only run labs 3-4 weeks into PCT than a month or 2 later. seems like a waste to take them right before starting, your gonna be crashed its a guarantee, no surprises. Getting labs right at the end than several weeks later is probably better to see what your body is doing on it's on after clomid stimulation is done.
I agree. You should know that your system is crashed before PCT. What we don't know is how efficient the PCT regiment we are doing is. There are three different PCT protocols on here and no one has any empirical data that I know of except myself on how effective they are. I ran and posted labs right after cycle and midway through PCT after an HCG blast in my PCT program. I am looking for comparisons.
isn't it true that you don't start producing LH until you stop the hcg dosing? so why would you run the hcg in pct. seems counterproductive to me.
The HCG actually stimulates the boys into growing. The clomid doesnt actually start to take effect until 3 weeks in. By getting your testicles back to producing as fast as possible you avoid (in my opinion) depression and the other negative sides. In my experience this has been the most effective way to keep gains and avoid depression. You are forcing your body back into homeostasis asap. The LH and FSH actually rebound faster as a result of the HCG. Look at my labs on my profile. I give a description of the purpose of the lab and what I was taking at the time. My test levels were almost back to normal as were my FSH and LH in 16 days. Labs are below,
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That's very interesting. So what was your protocol on pct? how much hcg did you use and for how long?
I use what is called the Power PCT program developed by Dr. Michael Scally for the purposes of restarting the HPTA after suppressive hormonal therapy. (That is their way of stating that they did their studies on men using excessive amounts of test c and test e.) I learned about it from a book called Anabolics 9th edition by William Llewellyn.
The protocol is simple:16 days of HCG at 2500IU every other day in conjunction with clomid at 50mg twice a day for 30 days along with nolva at 20 per day for 45 days. All are taken at the same time. So you end the HCG at day 16 followed by clomid at day 30 and nolva at day 45.
I have found my balls are back to normal size around days 8-10 and I suffer very little if any depression and I maintain strength and most of my mass.