posted Tue, 01/31/2012 - 15:48
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have not came across this topic''sry if i missed it''
NATURAL TEST. i have read a lot of comments around like''wait till your older you got the best test around ''natural test'', u don't need this......
Im just curious because i have read a few articles stating an average 20 year old will produce 6mg a day of test.
give or take a few based on healthiness of course.
So wouldn't 500mg or even 250mg weekly inj. put ANYONE on another level of muscle development ?
ok just been thinking about this for a month or so, figured id see what the big bros had to say bout it....
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Anonnot only that but eventually you will have to use more and more to get the same or worse results because you began using too early... you in effect "blow your wad" and don't have anything left you can supplement with .. sucks because you see these young guys running around in search of the magic cure and there is none.
I personally started juice earlier than most would like but my test levels at 23 were at 450 and ive stayed around thag in my post pct blood work and i see myself as future trt recepient at some point but right now i come back naturally to the same point and ive had two docs tell me normal so i would say what age you start juice at would depend on your body and your knowledge
AnonIn my profile is a pic at 19 years old. Never heard of steroids then. At 48 I am very glad i didn't start using until 42 years old.
The real issues is HTPA and damage to that Axis. Some guys keep recovering fine but at least 1/2 or more keep taking a chip away and run themselves into TRT WAY too early in life using from a young age.
aww shit yea forgot about the shut down of natty for a min. once i posted knew some one would call me on that one! lol yea that part worries me a lil
yes! i do 250 mg of test e a week and i have seen incredible results
bro if ur age is right on here u gotta chill and listen to these guys they know there stuff..
tread-mHere is the thing you are not being honest about, and I don't mean to us or you are lying, I mean not honest with yourself likley. I see guys all the time, again just the other day, say "damn I've gained 10 lbs in 2.5 weeks on test E." My come back is "well now you know what you can do without test because it had not kicked yet during those 2 .5 weeks.". See thats the thing, when you run gear you tend to do things right or at least train harder and or eat bigger. This is before we think about placebo which btw is a very real thing. I don't care what caused you to be better, you're better and thats all that matters. So thats it usually, be honest with yourself and test it. Work your balls off in the kitchen and the gym and run a very specific protocol and then do the same thing on your test cycle. May surprise you to see you do just as well off cycle, if not better off cycle. You already described part of that problem as you said you forgot about the shutdown. What happened is. You created a shutdown with less test than your natty was already giving you. Thats a net loss in free test and yet you are doing better. This also confirms you work harder towards the goal on cycle than you do off. I know the placebo effect because I experienced it as a young guy as well, that just got stung feeling full of superman juice and again, the placebo is very real. You run the same kitchen and gym off sometime and see where it goes, if you're not advancing at 20 then its very somple, you're not working hard enough. If something is not working, make it work by doing it better.
once again real nice tread! this post wasn't about advice for me to start or not i just wanted to see what u all had to say but once again ur def right about the working harder part ''on cycle'' than off i had great plans for my first cycle but ur right why not apply myself even harder along with the food and everything naturally a little longer before my first test e bin 24 and all myself why not . good lookin ! ima still hang with y'all time being if ya don't mind
tread-mAbsolutely hang brother!