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this might be more of a rant than a post. More and more we are seeing ridicules aas cycles at an alarming rate, and here as of late I'm noticing that many of these posts do not include a AI protocol to control and manage estrogen, prolactin levels, and when asked, "are you ready guys" many responses are what is an AI?, what is aromasin? what is cabergoline? really? I've seen that many of you claim to have x amount of years cycling aas and claim you've done your research with these steroid compounds. however that is only one half of what you need to know for a complete successful cycle. I would implore everyone that lacks this knowledge to take the time, learn any and all you can before you venture into your next cycle. having your hormone system out of wack carries many negative and health related issues, yes I could reference more here, however this will defeat my purpose in having you do your homework. do your research, your leaky lumpy man boobs will thank you!
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thank you guys for showing up and bringing some real digestible conversation to the table. always a pleasure brother Vike!
I tell you what just rattled my cage bro!... i was just scanning through my thread in general and noticed a few comments from guys that say ***they are on the fence" about our slap down on the young and stupid lately,saying that WE should teach them and not just throw them out the door.
NOW!....like you said we do get met with arrogance and aggression in a lot of circumstances but thats not the point i am going to make here.... point is the guys that are "on the fence" want US to carry on chewing ass in the cycles section and try to re-educate the un-educatable.
After checking!.. and i have checked i can assure you.. the ones that are "on the fence" and think WE should have a different approach NEVER show their selves in cycles section or cycle logs!.. or if they do its like once every fkn blue moon.......fkn pathetic that they want others to teach and they can sit back just being judgmental laughing at sad fkers like me working my ass daily trying to make a difference!.
SO to the ones "sat on the fence".... get your ass,s into gear and help to make a change or shut the fuck up and let doers do what they do best.
FINDING FAULTS IS THE EASIEST JOB IN THE WORLD....... PUT YOUR WORDS INTO ACTION OR SIMPLY KEEP YOUR FKN MOUTHS SHUT.
I am glad you stopped in there and cleared the air. We do need to stay united when it comes to the youngsters. There really is no gray area here. Right is right!
To tell you the truth when I joined eroids, I figured I would meet alot of members that would promote crazy compounds and cylcles ect. That wasn't the case, the members I have met have been more about safety and health than anything else. Its always a good thing when you have like minded people that have your best intrest in mind. Eroids reminds me a little of the military in that aspect, we call refer to it as "Police your own", looking out for your peer before they do something stupid! I would rather have 50 people comment on how bad my stack is, start the cycle and destroy myself. IMO
And you have thrived from it bro.......... check out then EBC pics you fkn animal lol................... +3
Couldn't agree more. You always say "walk the walk" and that is what matters. It's easy to sit back and pick and choose our arguments from a keyboard. I have received tons of help here and continue to do so. I try to offer help where I can, but there are times where I have to walk away when the case is hopeless. Those that are willing to help and share is what makes Eroids the best place to be!
I see your work regularly in cycle logs bro, i thank you for that
Regarding myself "WALKING THE WALK".... its genetic bro lol.... if i failed here i would be shot at dawn lol.... thats why i try to stay "fresh" and bring the best info relevant to certain topics has and when they crop up.
You nailed it! That is what I said over there in the other post. We are not dealing with genuine youngsters who want to learn in these cases. We are dealing with guys that already are going to do what they want and are looking for validation! Once you give them sound advice they get all pissy which goes along way to showing the immaturity of their nature.
I also said there is the exception to the rule but that type of young guy has already done a boat load of research because he is dead serious in his pursuit. I personally though can't think of any of these guys in question that fit this exception but maybe I am wrong.
See... difference with you bro is that you have been in the trenches in there with us already and met the types we are targeting... many vets have quit in that altogether because they feel like they are pissing into the wind.... again what riles me is the ones with plenty to say but never show up at the bad party when the fights break out!.. its like pretending to be a hard man then hiding behind your sister when shit hits the fan :(
Look at this brother this is what we are talking about I go to the cycle section inspired by your challenge to put in more work and look at this it proves what you are saying to a T!
Now granted he seems to be taking advice and considering some revisions to be fair to him. But this is the part that made me shake my head. He said he was " adding test prop because he had easy access to it". I pointed out that is a dangerous way to look at these serious medications and that should not be the reason for adding them simply because you have access.
He was polite in his response no disrespect to me but he says...
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/testeqdecadbol-spring-quality-mass-cycle
Hmmm yeah!... i read the whole thread bro and i have dealt with this member a few weeks ago.
Clearly no matter what you or the other guys in there say (finafan etc good guys) he is not listening and going to do his thing anyway even after a 15yr break from cycling he comes with an unplanned, no ancills on hand train wreck!
ZERO "fence sitters" in there trying to make a difference :(... you see my point bro! i know you do.
Yes and it needed to be made. Like my mother said "actions talk and bullshit runs the marathon!" I have a feeling with your open challenge many more will have to put up or shut up!
well said big fella, and just so you know, your experience and knowledge is much appreciated, me and my aussie mates soak up every bit of info you share, your a global body building/ aas encylopedia, not writing this to suck up or anything, but I can see where your coming from, and just thought id let you know that your hard work isn't falling on deaf ears, so I thank you for that, mate.
Thanks brother... i have always had shit hot relationships with you aussie boys on here...... its that anglo/aussie magic doing its thing bro lol :)))
+1 btw
my fave are the ones you try helping and they get defensive and attack you for helping!
ain't that the truth bro, thanks for the bump!
I have to agree, I mean it is a aas forum etc but I believe if someone is even thinking about running a cycle they should have good knowledge of everything there is to know about what there about to use, then if they get stuck or confused, ask away, but I know exactly what your saying, example, when someone proposes a cycle of test and deca, then has to ask what do I use for cycle support, they are not ready!!! there is tons and tons of info here and on the web, surely people can research and have some general knowledge and common sense!! good post +1
thanks for the support Gear, your nailed it brother, I have recently just started going over to the cycle forum and yes it sure is a different bunch over there, I get why our Mods are at wits end and feel like banging there heads off a brick wall. In the open I see your occasional miss guided, uninformed person, over there it's a debauchery of lunacy. soon as any of us step up to help and share the wisdom we gained along the way, we are meet with adversity and resistance. Plz don't get me wrong bro I'm proud to be a member here, so many guys and gals with a wealth of information. must go seek out my daily dose of Ed humor now lol.
Bro, u r not ranting. I am just starting to peer over at the cycle log pages only recently and there seems to be a well hidden insanity residing there that doesn't always leak out on the open forum pages. For me, it's like developing yet another communication style to try to talk some folk out of exercises in futility. Your heart and mind and sense of responsibility are in the right place. It's nice to hear a perspective like yours that offers the hope that some folk will in fact learn things that will enrich their AAS experience while protecting their health as best possible so that eroids can counsel them to avoid the mistakes that I and others like me made all those years ago.
Rustyhookerwhen they post like that your beyond the assumption they have no clue but many made up stats etc. its not easy but reteaching is the goal.
I do often wonder how legitimate is the information they pass off to us Rusty. always willing to help someone with an open mind. just seems like most just want us to sign off on there idiocy.
RustyhookerThere's always going to be folks passing fake info to get help. They always return with serious issues then truth comes out.
The advice is only as good as the presented info. Vets can customize any cycle/goal with honest info. Chatting with the op on their thread helps ya "feel out" a bit of reality.
This is so true and what believe is proof in the reversal of evolution! You imagine bringing your Softail Harley in for a carburetor and telling them it is for a Suzuki. Except that will be less damaging than lying about stats etc
hunteron20sI agree that they should do the leg work and find out what gear would be best for their goals and now the big and...have al and prami caber or bromo on deck or dont start at all ..