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+ 7 MASS SPECTRUM/ANGUS & PAST EVENTS

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Well I guess most of you know now what happened to the most popular "lab" tester on eroids. He conducted himself on here as a professional however most of you know that we all hide behind a computer screen/ keyboard however what he did was just wrong. He made it seem that he worked in a lab and knew the ins and outs of spectrum purity testing however he did not. I remember submitting tests and it would come back like 87%... some odd number to add to the credibility to his tests however a week later I would submit another sample from the same batch and he would state that it was like 92%... He also could not run samples unless a log was sent to tell him what each sample was. I would send samples numbered 1..2..3... etc, then send a key that would tell him what each was such as: 1-Test E, 2-Test P, 3-EQ, Etc... I wonder how much money he got away with from these "Lab tests" Kind of makes me sick. What is everyones' thoughts on this matter?

ashop's picture

Biggrin Biggrin

woody51's picture

just went threw 4+ hrs of the debate you had with angus and src testing ... i can say i learned a lot and ruined my sleeping lol...but it was one of the best debates in a while i have read...

ReadyToKillIt's picture

Big is a subjective term. My idea of ridiculously huge, could be aces idea of a perfect date. As for part 2. When a medical professional says that the Dr's exam must be held on the edge of a cliff. Lets just say it was either back up, or go over. At least I'm here to tell the tale.

Hustle28's picture

Wow this thread got juicy I really want to see what banner has to say lol I'm getting the popcorn ready

Engineereddisaster's picture

Ok, so I still have a couple of questions for the op that haven't been answered.
1. Where the hell was the scrutiny on your part, while recieving all of these tests? Seems to me this is just an attempt to distance yourself from somebody you were happy to align yourself with when he was helping you.
And for CBBurr..your defense of Angus has me a little curios especially given the fact that your AVi is none other than the Simpsons character..ANGUS MACMORAN! Some similiarities if you ask me. Lol.
I'm surprised no one caught on to thAt.

CBBurrr's picture

I've always known him as Willy.

I've been rooting for Angus since the accusations started flying, and kinda like a patriots fan, I don't want to think that my team was cheating.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol. Nothing wrong with picking a team. I'm a fair weather fan myself. Smile

eastcoastmuscle's picture

I go by what the admins of this site tell us is happening. i place my trust in them to tell me the truth about whats really going on. when this post first started, it was mentioned by one of the mods that angus was bullshitting and these tests werent legit. So for some of us i think, myself included, it wasnt bashing angus now that he wasnt here, it was just being shocked at what i was told was the truth , after angus seemed to be held in such a high regard around this site.

ashop's picture

Angus sent me a email he is well and free. He said someone wanted to setup him but was very fast cleared and everything dropped. I did not pasted all the part of that message because were too many details.

Also he say: ( this I can paste )

"Funny thing banner decides to talk trash after everything hes asked me to do. Thats the problem these days, no fuckin honor. It sure as hell wasnt "angus brew" cause i would never sell out like that. I guess the problems betweej you and i are minimal but i have respect for you because you had honor enough to bring your fight directly to me instead of all the other little girls that wait till im banned to start talking shit. At least you earned my respect whereas so many others have lost it"

ashop's picture

BTW when is something positive nobody care but when is something negative everyone jump on it.

CBBurrr's picture

Never saw a source complain that there is no way their tren E is 98%!
And I wonder who tried to setup Angus, That's about the biggest bus you could throw someone under.

Nitti's picture

You guys can't neg a post just because you disagree

CBBurrr's picture

I negged him because he was one of the guys that benefited the most from mass specs done by Beaker and Angus, and now that Angus is banned he's flip flopping. He had a line of gear with Beakers pic on it, and then posts this.
Seems pretty neg worthy to me.

Nitti's picture

Again, this post is not violating any rules and anyone's personal issues or feelings need to be addressed in a different manner at a different time. This post doesn't violate any rules so you can't neg it. Well, you can and you did And I'm asking you to reverse it. As far as mass specs, I told all you guys months and months ago , the method of testing that was being done and advertised by our boy was incorrect for testing finished product. A very little bit of research and you'd see what exactly the electrospray mass spectrometer is capable of. then you'll realize that in order to test finished products as was the case around these parts, you would need a Gas Chronography mass spectrometer. Not once did I see a mention of that test. But whatever

CBBurrr's picture

Nitti, you've earned my respect as a mod and I have offset my neg. I think the dialog we had going was the way to handle this situation, and was disappointed to see that Angus was banned and the banner jumped on him when he was already down.
I'll go offset my other neg, the one to the DrB2014, who also waited till angus was banned to voice his opposing view. A pretty lame thing to do if you ask me.
If we were allowed to, I'd neg goth for starting the jail rumor, and Alin for waiting two months to get back to MD on the lab challenge.

dudebro's picture

yeah nitti is a good dude, can't really argue with the guy over something like this. it's just too bad we can't erase our negs without giving a thumbs up which this post certainly doesn't deserve, especially since banner won't even come back in here and explain himself.

CBBurrr's picture

I talk too much sometimes.

Nitti's picture

I talk too much sometimes

You can speak your mind any time way shape or form. I wasn't arguing the content but the specific issue with points and the current system. It isn't the greatest system we have but we are working on it and trying to get the message out that karma is insignificant. Nothing more than a popularity contest.

dudebro's picture

nah man you got something to say i say let it be heard. i think you steered this topic in the right direction.

Nitti's picture

If Angus was here why would it matter bro? Do you mean the OP is posting to throw dude under the bus and save face,?

Nitti's picture

I don't know honestly and it isn't really my job or my place to question him or you for that matter. My job is to uphold the rules. No more, no less. I leave my opinions and feelings about shit in my locker. The person who posted could be anyone for all I care. The fact that their shit was negged unjustly is my only gripe. But I'm going to let you 3 or 4 guys who negged decide if you think you should reverse it. If you decide not to , fine. I will let another mod make the decision. I don't feel the need to be all up in ya'llz faces about shit like this. I'll ask for cooperation. If I don't get it , ok, no sweat off my balls. It's a minor issue. I choose my battles. You're all vets here. You know what you should do.

Nitti's picture

Fair enough. Mostly because you have clearly invested time and thought into the matter, and because you're so charming, i'll fall back and retire from the thread. Reason #3 is the only one I accept and agree with, but for integrity sake, I don't disagree. I do however think that there was a lot more to this than was let on by angus. In the end it isn't really my business. When I had to, I challenged him and you're right. He responded by saying he wasn't conducting the tests, but when I made him aware of my own research, he said he would have his tester reply accordingly and i'm still waiting for that. Like 6 months now? But as long as the community as a whole understands what these tests are and what to expect when reading them. Just like every other aspect of a capitalist society, this testing scheme has been corrupted and the ignorance of the masses (by ignorance I don't mean stupid. I think people wanted to believe these tests were rock solid so they turned a blind eye) allowed the shit to continue in excess of a year. I along with others repeatedly beat the drums of reason and asked that ppl take them with a grain of salt. No way of testing is going to outweigh simple human experience. I prefer to test products by trying them out and reading between the lines with UGL's. When they're hot, jump in and get your shit. But don't latch on to their sac because chances are, you'll be crying foul in the end. In the name of accuracy I will retract my prior statements that insinuate Angus knowingly defrauded members with made up tests. It's just as likely he passed along samples and passed back results and nothing more. I don't believe in kicking a man when he's down.

dudebro's picture

i negged it because i think its all pretty much bullshit and whenever any normal member makes a bullshit post it gets negged all to hell so i think sources should get the same treatment.

dudebro's picture

this one? yeah i did but i reversed it. it now gets the big thumbs up from me. the bullshit seal of approval.

Engineereddisaster's picture

I guess I have to agree with our new mysterious crusty the clown. I don't think I've ever seen Dudeblow contribute anything but negative to the site. Maybe a little positive fanboying is all. Consider the fact that he's almost three years a member and not a single forum post.
Yeah he really is a designated shit slinger.
Well done Dudeblow.

dudebro's picture

yeah i know it's such a shame that i don't like seeing guys get ripped off and i try to hold sources accountable when they take some guy's money and then start fucking them around. i thought that was the entire purpose of this board but i guess i was wrong.

tonytulo's picture

That smiley looks familiar lol.

dudebro's picture

so clever. why don't you go join a creative writing forum or something. you're not really contributing anything worthwhile here yourself. and yeah i must be a "fanboy" because im "slinging shit" when people are getting ripped off or fucked around by a source. great logic.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Thank you, I am quite clever. I am already one one of those forums. Thank you for the suggestion.

As for the Fanboy accusation...there is one source in who you love and protect. Lol, you know who I'm talking about.

Sorry bro, just being honest. I've never seen a single positive contribution from you.

Perhaps you can point me in the direction of one of your fine contributions. Id be happy to look it over.

dudebro's picture

love and protect a source sure ok that really happened. i thought you would've cut your wrists by now since you don't have viking's balls to suck on anymore.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Please, point me to some of your contributions. I'd love to see them.

dudebro's picture

better yet why don't you point me to some of yours and im not talking about your little jeff foxworthy stories.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Here is one of plenty to chose from.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/h20-based-testosterone...

I can keep going. You fail to realize that there is only one person on this entire site who has made more forum posts than I have and he has me beat by about 5
Dig through it, weed out my funny shit and you'll find plenty of useful, contributing posts.
Where are yours?
That's right bitch, you have none. Run along before you get hurt.

dudebro's picture

That being said, I found an interesting article on Test Suspension.

Engineereddisaster's picture

You've got nothing. Just like your contributions. Run along and find some drama.

dudebro's picture

so you think reading something online and then telling people about it is some great contribution? you've written 186 forum topics and about 175 of them have viking in the title lmao. congrats, you are the biggest dicksucker on this site.