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Important Advice - Enlarged Liver....

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So, I've been having some abdominal discomfort ever since having my gall bladder removed (gall bladder sludge, most likely due to hereditary related issues or poor fat digestion and doing high fat diets like keto), I followed up and had another ultra sound done, this time it came back with an "enlarged liver".

The findings/recommendations of the radiologists didn't seem to concerned, nor did my primary care doctor, however absolutely EVERYTHING on the internet makes it clear that this is something not to be overlooked or left untreated to find the underlying cause, so I have an appointment in just under a month with a G.I specialist, in which more will be found specifically.

There's always a chance it could be an enlarged fatty liver (mother and grandfather both have this and symptoms match mine) and not a general 'enlarged liver' from medical ailments, in which would require upped excersize and weight loss.

Could ANYBODY tell me if AAS pertains to liver health/liver fat content, outside of the 17-aa compounds? Test, Primo, Anavar, Trenbolone. I know some of you will argue about how tren does/doesn't affect liver enzymes, which when studies as 'parabolan' (same compound) had shown NO impact on liver values along with the fact that no medical study has it ever been confirmed it to raise liver values.

I want to start my cycle, but I'm not sure if I should wait until this is addressed or 'normal', or if the AAS I mentioned above will not affect the liver.

Anybody?

TenaciousD's picture

I'm a medical person and read abdominal ultrasounds every day.

An enlarged liver on ultrasound just means that the head to toe length of your liver was more than 15-17cm, which is the upper limits of normal.

In most cases of otherwise healthy people with normal lab values, this just means your liver is shaped in a way that makes it seem large, but it is otherwise normal. Or you could be a big person, and have a normal liver for your size, but a "big" liver based on the standard measurements.

The most common reasons for enlarged livers in people with liver problems are infectious hepatitis, which would be clear from lab work and antibody panels, and fatty infiltration, which has many causes, but most commonly obesity and diabetes. Fatty liver can usually be seen on ultrasound and often has some liver enzyme elevation.

So if your liver enzymes and other bloodwork are normal, then it is almost assuredly nothing of significance.

And as an aside, I've seen different ultrasound techs get different reads on liver size. Ultrasound imaging is extremely tech-dependent. Next time you get one it could well be normal in size because they measure it a bit differently.

trainbrain's picture

Dont start any cycle until you have your health in check!
If you have questions regarding your health that should be enough to put a stop to any cycle. Get down to the bottom of your problem first as aas will effect your liver and health etc.
I think there is a difference between enlarged liver and fatty liver.
I had a fatty liver years ago (during a bulking cycle where I tipped the scales at 125kgs+) It came up during a scan for a kidney stone.
Diet and exercise got rid of that problem

PeeledSouthWest's picture

Just based of the ultra sound they said it's 'enlarged'. Without a CT scan or better imaging, they won't specifiy if enlarged from fatty liver (EFL) or just 'enlarged'. I guess I'll wait before I start ugh

finafan's picture

I know s lot of people that have had weight loss surgery. When someone goes in for the surgery the doctor makes them lose a bunch of weight on their own. The reason is their liver is enlarged and they want the liver to shrink to make the operation safer. So maybe with weight loss your liver will shrink.

PeeledSouthWest's picture

I'm only like 25 pounds over my 'ideal' weight though

Deuce9's picture

look up tudca/udca. they treat cirrosis with it.

levelup's picture

wait man, high protein during cycle along with the compounds is going to put more stress on your liver. if they are already elevated you shouldnt put any more stress on them...figure out with the cause is, fix it and then jump on cycle. you want to make it to the next cycle and the cycle after that and the cycle after that...no need to chance it while you have an issue going on

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PeeledSouthWest's picture

That's the thing, they're not elevated. My blood work came back 100% fine, liver enzymes, cholesterol, complete blood count, everything. Urine, etc.

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