+ 6 I'm Done
I know a lot of people say that roid rage is a myth, but for me it isn't. I think the people who say it's a myth are people who can tolerate steroids better than others, and dont get side effects like increased aggression and rage. I am not one of those people. Sometimes I'm able to handle myself when I'm on a cycle, but often times I'm not. I've been using steroids for years, and in that time I've lost jobs, ruined relationships, burned bridges and even wound up in jail. All because my fuse becomes so short while on gear, there's practically no fuse at all. I'll be working a job and be an absolute rockstar, then have a simple disagreement with a difficult coworker, send a strongly worded email and get fired on the spot. I once beat the shit out a cab driver while drunk because he wouldn't take a credit card and I didn't have any cash on me. I paid through the nose for that, and was barely able to get the charges dismissed. In my line of work, a simple misdemeanor on my record makes me completely unemployable. My career would be over. My personal relationships aren't spared either. I have dumped a few really great girlfriends over the most trivial bullshit, that could have simply been talked out. Every time I start a cycle I get worried that something else will happen, but I always tell myself "I'm aware of what could happen, I'll control it this time". Sometimes I'm able to, but sometimes not. I'm in a great place right now career wise, and three days ago I cursed at a coworker on a conference call for talking over me. My boss threatened to fire me if I did it again. I'm actually surprised he didn't. So now, despite kicking complete ass at this job and being respected by everyone I work with, I feel like I'm on thin ice...for no good reason whatsoever. I made a decision. I manned up and admitted to myself that I just can't handle steroids like others can. Bigger muscles aren't worth losing my career or my freedom for, so I've decided to stop forever. I've heard people say "if you're an asshole without steroids, then you're a bigger asshole on them", and that may be true for some, but I'm not an asshole. I'm a nice person who cares about people, but something about being on steroids turns me into a short tempered, sometimes violent asshole. From here on out it's just diet, cardio, weights and GH.
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yamyamtrevpersonally ithink you got some bollox to come on here and admit this and second to come off the gear , i hope it all goes well for you ,deepest respect ,trev
Roid Rage inst a myth.... it affects probably 5-10% of guys who use gear.
Alcohol doesn't make everybody a lunatic... but it does me, so I realized I simply can't drink---at all----ever. I have no "off" switch and shit goes terribly wrong when I drink.
Good choice!!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Once I start down that road there is only one thing I'm sure of and that is "This is not going to end well."
I can be around alcohol. I just can't participate anymore.
Same here. Although I have taught myself to extremely moderate these days, I went a good ten years with hardly drinking a drop. Every time I got myself in real trouble alcohol was there cheering me on. If you cannot just have one then always have none.
Alcohol makes some people do crazy things and others calm and cool...
But yet there is no limit on buying alcohol here buy as much as you want of it. but I can't go drug store and buy certain medicine without signing paper.....
Alcoholism and violence go hand in hand for a lot of user's and innocent people. I grew up around it and I don't touch it just for that reason....
Better than me saying I'm a alcoholic because my dad was not my fault....NO I seen the horrible things alcohol can do to some people and leads to different things some times. I take that very serious...
Good for you Pale keep it up my, dad hasn't touch a drop in probably 25 years or more....
I can drink anything and be really happy....but give me vodka and I'm a totally different person. Very nasty and abusive I have no idea why as everything else I'm fine with
Drink mead, live forever.
Wasn't that the official beer of Skyrim?
Silly peasant! Mead predates beer!! Off with your head!
I'm not sure if it was, never could get into Skyrim...
Lmfao!
Love mead mate but a bit to sweet to have all the time
There's Dry Mead for that brother ;)
Dry mead?
Never heard of that before I best get searching for some.
Thanks mate
Exactly... the last time I drank I put a $100,000 car in the ditch after promising myself I'd only have 2 doubles.
Alcohol LIED to me AGAIN after telling me how much fun we would have.
Best advice I have ever received regarding e-mails: Don't send one if you are pissed off...
Rosser01Shit Bro great read and an awesome thread, good that you figured out your limits before it is too late. To blow a great job and the rest of your future would be terrible. Glad that you got it figured out. +1
I found out its only a few compounds that make ME aggressive. Halotestin, Tren, seem to be the only two, but I am trying Masteron for the first time so we will see how that works.
I suffer from a "Short fuse" without juice but its a constant awareness that I keep my anger in check EVERYDAY. I can feel it start to rise and I always have a brief momentary period RIGHT before I flip the switch, so ive learned to relax myself upon feeling the build up...Ive also found making sure I'm having sex helps a lot. If I havent ejaculated in a day, I'm much more aggressive.
Sex, Meditation, Awareness, & MaryJ are my anger alleviators
+1 for AWARENESS.
It's amazing how many men don't see themselves fitting into a bigger picture. We only think ME ME ME, as opposed to, "what can my presence and strength add to this situation?"
Life is better when we build, not break. Unless you do demolition for a living. Y'all get me drift. Build friendships, relationships, good mojo, etc.
I've never experienced any roid rage but I have experienced carb rage. Cut my carbs and I start getting real cranky.
ahh yes the "Hangry Rage"
I have tried a couple to times in the past to try to get to ketosis, I couldn't never make it because I would get grouchy, real bad........ That's not for me....
This post almost sounds like a public service announcement,lol. Somebody cue the poorly recorded backing music.
I've only had one compound make me very aggressive and that was anadrol. Loved the results i got but hated the way it made me act.
Everyone reacts differently to things. The point is to know how you react and act accordingly. Looks like you've done that here. Good for you.
There are many factors that can cause "roid rage". Blood pressure can be a significant one. Knowing can help know how it contributes.
Like it was said below, many people can go off on many differnt substances. Again, knowing and acting responsibly is key. We may all want to use aas or alcohol, etc., but some just shouldn't. Are we going to be responsible enough to just say no? I hope so. Again, great example by the OP.
Dear Binary,
Great post, being open and honest with yourself and to us on the boards is awesome. I suggest finding a counselor to speak with regarding this impulse control. I have a sneaking suspicion that it may be something more deeply rooted in you that the roids are bringing out when on cycle. I have always had my own battle with anger and agression, and talking to someone has helped me let go of that fire inside that seems to be burning for no reason, or at least not a big reason (ie stubbing a toe doesn't call for ripping a door from its hinges)
I hope you can find peace bro as I hope we all do. I'm not in anyway trying to take blame off the gear, just saying it might be letting a monster rear its head that was inside before the gear was a part of your life.
around a year ago I read a study conducted by a group of doctoral researchers which focused on individuals wirh higher than "normal" testosterone levels. the subject didn't use steroids but had levels that exceeded 1300 mg/Dl.
the study was aimed at behavioral outcomes and professional success. the results yielded concluded that one of two common outcomes takes place; the individual was unable to learn hown to control his impulses and was in an out of jail which ultimately meant he didn't achieve much at all in life and some went to jail for their whole life. the second group reached an amazing heights in life. this group was commonly found to become well known politicians or another leader of some sort which had many followers.
they didn't go much into theory as to why some were able to learn better impulse control though. I also didn't save the study so I can't reference it or share it either.
I thought that this was pretty fitting for this particular post though. impulse control can make or break us in life. all the elevates hormones, unbalanced hormones and increase in epinephrine release due to elevated testosterone can make it a true testament to your character.
stay safe everyone and keep your loved ones safe too.
GnarkillGood read +1 man that makes sense
Everyone is different and alot of things come into play in the situation.
Respect that you recognized the problem and strong enough to prioritize it out of your life. Better late than never. Good luck to you sir, aesthetics can be achieved without anabolic support.
Thanks man. When I look back at the happiest times in my life, I wasnt on gear at the time.
Very good to hear, been there too only on tren , wife hid the gun from me while I was rampaging during some easter event we had going on. I felt too that the people I love don't deserve my bullshit just for "gains", its in the dose for me but definitely understand that decision. I was gonna suggest but you already said it, GH, IGF Lr3, supps, that would be my protocol too if I was in your shoes.
@binary, it speaks volumes of your character to understand what works and what doesn't work for you. As Clint Eastwood so famously said, "A man's gotta know his limits." It appears you've found yours, and you're making a choice that will ultimately benefit you for the rest of your days. Much respect, brother.
Even this morning, going to the gym at friggin 5am (because that's the only time I get to myself before the chaos of every day kicks in) I tell myself right before my warm ups, "remember why you lift." I know, it sounds like I'm a some sort of hippie buddhist or something (nothing wrong with that!) but seriously, that little mantra keeps me "centered." My goal is to use my strength to help the people I love (and even strangers, for that matter). It's TOUGH to remind yourself before workouts, "remember why you lift," but try it. If you can keep that going for a week or two, it starts to become routine, and then BAM, you find yourself lifting smarter, pushing harder, and digging deep when you're feeling like a wuss at 5am. I hope this info helps you out as you start your next adventure of "sobriety" for lack of a better word.
Sometimes I'm the same way far as the fuse being short but I can control it, I know my limits and when I have had enough and not worth pushing myself over the edge. Somedays I feel all good and happy with everything then someone cuts me off in traffic and DAM its on then. I will be pissed rest of the day and very short fuse, but I just talk shit out in my head and think good thoughts.
I use to come home mad at my workers and raise hell at the wife until one day she looked me in the eyes and said..... Listen I don't work for you.... That's when it hit me hard and that has been years and years ago...
So yea it's easier for some than other's then again I think some people just don't give a shit and the gear makes it worse....
Friend of mine for many years is a good guy give shirt off his back to anyone, but when he gets drunk he is the biggest asshole EVER....
Lot of people say that you're a asshole to begin with but drinking just makes you a bigger asshole, well that's not true for everone just like gear treats everone different as well like you say....
Great read bro and keep that shit under control and know your limits and bounds and don't cross them seems like you have already had way to many bad exsperiences already..... Be safe and remember always pay foward good deeds and be kind.....
Some people to handle steroids better than other, I will agree with that. From my experience its not the testosterone that is the culprit of increasing your harassability but its the unbalance of excess estrogen.
Its good that you have decided to stop using steroids based on having issues, and its great you are able to acknowledge it now. I don't know you and I'm not trying to be judgmental, but I'd be willing to guess you also have some other issues on top of the steroids in terms of anger issues etc. and the steroids are just magnifying them. Again, I'm not judging you and I think its great you are taking these steps. I am also basing my opinion on personal experiences and things about myself.
Much power and luck to you brother. Its not worth throwing your goals and loved ones away for better gains.
Hitman187compounds don't really make my fuse any shorter, but i noticed when i slack on my ai and let my estro creep up i get real edgy and just about anything can set me off.
yeah I know what ya mean, dude. since syarting trt a year ago the most difficult part to dial in is my ai. if my estrogen goes too low, I'm a dick, moody, cognitive function goes way down and my libido sucks. if my estrogen goes too high I get all the same symptoms minus the decline in cognition.
seems like my estrogen needs to be 22 to 25, anything outside of that and it's no bueno!
thanks man.
AnonWell said brother!
GnarkillDam man people say tren enanthate is sides in a bottle and I get absolutely nothing from it maybe even get a little happier but dbol holy shit I will never touch that shit i flip off the handle so quick like where someone is doing absolutely nothing and I'll just start going off on him getting in his face and shit. I'll never touch that again EVER I almost lost my job cause of it and was making my kids scared of me so if it's like that for you with everything then I support you 100% brother good luck man I might not know you but I have lots of respect after reading this
I totally feel ya on the d-bol. I wont ever run that shit again, makes me crazy aggressive.
Dbol gets me too. I have some of the wildest stories with aggression and me on dbol. During the peak of my use, my wife was looking for it to throw away. If she heard someone in the house say bol, she perked right up to listen.
GnarkillLmao yup my wife to on mothers day we got into it and I was screaming in her face like some wife beater guy and that was the day I said no more. But when we get into arguments I say welp guess what I'm taking dbol for my kicker next cycle get ready cause were going to have a pow wow and then she cuts me off from the love stuff even though I was joking
AnonI don't get crazy aggression or anger from a lot of compounds. However Boldenone I have to stay away from. Used it several times and on every cycle it made me crazy. Cussed out bosses at work. Arguments escalate to the point I'm in rage mode in under 2 seconds. Ready to bloop the hell out. Not sure why it affects me that way. Even ran a Test/Bold cycle only. Found out for some reason it just don't set well with me. Haven't ran across anybody else that it effects that way.
You can't swear on a conference call, ouch. I've lost my shit several times, mostly because we are global and I can't understand some of these accents. Smart move, bro. I wish you continued success.
lol, nope. it's white collar corporate america...it's beyond PC these days. We had this thing called the "black list" that was full of certain bad information....they made us change the name to something else. In my defense, the lady I yelled at is a truly horrible person. She is always yelling over people trying to talk...I've heard a few people politely ask her to let them finish....I wasn't as polite.
Now see in all honesty that would really piss me off on or off cycle if someone was trying to talk over someone else.especially if I was talking first that's just bad manners mate the bitch deserved it.
And let's face it you probably did what 99%of the people in that room wanted to do lol ;)
Good luck bro
GnarkillLmao I run a jackhammer all day and one day I was mudding up a storm drain after we just paved new pavement I lost my shit and threw concrete mix all over the new asphalt and that a big no no came walked off cussing came back 10 minutes later and my boss cleaned up all he could lmao I apologized but since then he doesn't yell at me as much after he seen that dbol rage
I dont know why this post makes me laugh so hard. I've read it like 5 times and I laugh every time.