LongTimeLifter's picture
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I think I got some dirty gear

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I was doing fine on test prop and Tren ace for about 4 weeks then introduced some Masteron into the mix. After every injection after the masteron was introduced I have a dull pain in my kidney area (low left back) and the injection site feels more tight and painful than usual for a few days. Now my kidney area is swollen somewhat. No bloody or cloudy urine however.

It’s not low back pump from Tren, I know the difference for that.

A few days ago I switched out all my vials but today noticed the masteron one is cloudy and has something off white swirling around in there.

Anyone ever have something similar happen?

fusebox's picture

If there was a place where people could review such stuff would be great

Hitman1992's picture

If I were you I’ll stop the cycle
If you have hard time breathing like when you’re taking deep breath and it feels hurt go to ER now or just go to clinic tomorrow don’t play with fire and trash your mast and stop the cycle fix it before it’s too late
Wish you best of luck brother

GreatSpear's picture

I did more research on the health insurance subject.
As of 2016, they cannot deny you health insurance or change you more for pre-existing conditions, i.e. low T.

Additionally, I found where my confusion about insurance claim denial comes from, only about half of the states have laws that allow insurers to deny coverage due to illegal activity. In my state, insurers are required to pay for medical coverage even if self inflicted due to illegal drug usage. They often cover the cost of rehab after medical treatment too. So, depending on what state you live reside in, you may be covered even with steroid use. This is why I don’t personally know of anyone who’s been denied coverage or had any issues with insurance and any drug use. Now I know it varies from state to state.

Hopefully this information will help others, and prompt them to look into their own policies and state laws. I would hate for someone to be hurt because they didn’t want to go to the hospital with a steroid related ailment because they were afraid of getting stuck with the bill and losing coverage, when they would be covered.

GreatSpear's picture

You’re right! I never claimed it was, it was just an example of a common pre-existing condition that I felt people could relate to.
That being said, I know some people worry that insurers will not cover conditions that are found during a lapse in coverage. The affordable care act changed it to where they cannot refuse to cover them, like if someone lost their job and couldn’t afford health insurance for a few months, but had to go to the ER and found out they had a tumor. Once they got back on their feet with a job and insurance again the insurer can’t refuse to insure them or to refuse coverage for expenses relating to that tumor.

johnmarshall12's picture

See a Doc. Toss the cloudy Vial! Anything you tell a Dr. is confidential they won't tell the insurance company if you tell them not to.

Bill1976's picture

Yup I just had to do that. Your right.

stairmaster's picture

If u have kidney pain, the pain is in the middle of your back.

shiva4's picture

Please see a physician and have a blood panel done, as in yesterday......

333's picture

Lmfao right +

LongTimeLifter's picture

Valid points. Thx

GreatSpear's picture

Yeah, I’d go to the walk-in clinic tomorrow if I were you. Also throw out that masteron

IrishMack's picture

Go see a fkn doctor. That is not normal. If you had bad gear the injection site would be huge, red, and massively painful and would not go away. You got something else happening. And why the hell would you keep injecting if you are getting massive kidney pains? Never mind just stop everything and get checked out.

LongTimeLifter's picture

It’s not massive, just a dull pain. No other symptoms. I’ve been doing a 3mo cycle every 12-18mo since 2005 with no issues.

You’re probably right, just don’t want to get steroid user added to my medical records and be uninsurable.

GreatSpear's picture

I’ve never heard of anyone being uninsurable because they used AAS before. Maybe you can point me to some documented cases, but I wasn’t able to find any other than “I heard of a dude who knew a dude who’s sister dated a guy that got denied coverage because he juiced”

Bill G's picture

I new that girl, used to date her cousins friend

GreatSpear's picture

Were you eventually able to find an insurance company that would insure you or is it an across the board blackball?

GreatSpear's picture

I could see getting denied for a pre-existing condition like low-T diagnosed during a gap in coverage, but I’ve literally never heard of someone denied health insurance for admitting they used steroids. I even just read over my insurance documents and couldn’t find anything in there about it. Like I said, no one has shown me concrete proof of it happening or an official policy.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2016/rpt/pdf/2016-R-0138.pdf
“Connecticut does not prohibit illegal act exclusions in insurance policies. However, according to the Connecticut Insurance Department, the department found no such exclusions in a search of the major medical or HMO forms filed by major carriers.”

IrishMack's picture

Let me spell it out for you you go to your doctor and have surgery. Doctor asks you if you take anything for pain that you may be allergic to. You tell doc you take painkillers recreationally or whenever you feel pain. Doc asks for prescription you tell him you don't have one. Doc puts it in your medical chart and from now on you can never get painkillers. Same concept different drug. You also get letter from insurance company saying you're claims will be denied.

kodiakGRRL's picture

yep.... I have had something similar happen to me where I can't get long term disability in certain cases for how the Doc wrote up post partum depression ...

IrishMack's picture

Anything they can do to not pay for what you put in.

kodiakGRRL's picture

pretty much .. that's how they make money

Bill1976's picture

Fortunately you told me this with my blood test I posted a month ago my doctor wrote it in a way that I wouldn’t lose my insurance. I found a quest too right around the corner from me.

GreatSpear's picture


Or I’m 29... I look it up, I find some information and source it so it doesn’t look like I’m making it up myself.

felony's picture

That's clearly a copy not acceptable. Original or you didn't happen.

GreatSpear's picture

Okay, but it’ll take a while to get the original... it’s in a safe deposit box with Obama’s

Greg's picture

Seriously? Dude, I'm 29 and that's my birth certificate.

felony's picture

Fucking hilarious. I lost coffee as I scrolled down the page and saw his big fake I just made this at staples birth certificate pop up.

IrishMack's picture

I am right. Go see a doctor there's nothing more to add. Noone here on the internet is qualified to give you an answer besides a visit to a hospital to a doctor.

LongTimeLifter's picture

No, in the glute like a normal person.