posted Sat, 07/05/2014 - 18:16
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How much you lift brah?
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I noticed this a lot at the gym. I'm not a real big guy but like to think I'm strong for my size. But why is it I see these huge ass guys at the gym looking like they weight 220lbs. They grab 100lb dumbbells and flat bench them and they kind of struggle with them.
But then I try them and get it for 6 reps. Am I missing something here? Is it just water retention or what? They on synthol or something? Some weird balloon blow up shit under there cloths?
And if it is ballons things, where can I get some? cuz i want them!!!!!
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When I was 20 I had some strong ass lifts. My legs haven't been as strong since. I was able to squat 565x2 and 405x22 only wearing a belt. That was before juice btw....
Now my best set on the bench is 405x2 raw
i did bench 320lb 1x when i was 19, clean no roids 2 year later i stoped weight and now i dont lift for good 6 years i still manage to do 220 like 6-7 times but hey im a 167lb runner
That's nothing, I usually grab 45 lb weights in each hand and carry them around while I make laps around the gym (walking of course). I think it makes me look pretty coooolllll! ;-p
LOL you're still playing with 45's, I roll around the 100's plates XD.. All eyes on me
The funniest part of this is that I've seen a couple of guys at my gym actually do this. They grab a couple of 45 lbs in each hand (they have cut outs where you can hold them), and then proceed to make laps around the gym at a leisurely pace. There is no lunging or any other modification to their walk, just simply walking. They do about three or four laps around the gym and then their done. Boom! Cool as a cucumber.
LMAO, that's because their clueless on what they're doing IMO; they seen some other guy do it, and monkey see, monkey do. XD
lmao that's awesome bro.
proper form is everything, you can be lifting 500lbs for 3 reps but, that shit aint build you muscles nor burn fat so, whats the point if aint a power lifter? the mirror doesn't lie, nothing is worse then being strong and big but, being ashamed of taking your shirt off at the beach..
Hey Champion, just got back to this thread.. Decided to toss this up for you and fellow PL homies ;)
http://www.eroids.com/pics/what-a-powerlifter-looks-like
I'm surrounded by them LOL there mostly 250-265 lbs with 25% BF, they look like shit, but shit dude they are damn strong. I not only want to big and huge like Ronnie Coleman but I want to be as strong as well. We all have different aspirations bro and anything is attainable with hard work. BTW bro nice progress man keep it up!
Today at the gym I hit my goal 1rm deadlift of 500lbs. I was wearing a baggy 3xl tshirt so I dont really look like I lift , (actually I hardly look like I lift without a shirt on at the moment, anyways) There was a group of early twenty year olds next to me who are all puffed, zitted, moon faced and wearing their stringers. I heard one of the peacocks say "no chance he gets it off the ground"..... Felt good to stare him down after that one..... They the. continued their barbell curls that were more of a lower back workout than a bicep exercise.
Awesome work my man!! I'm right on your heels brother, locked out 454 tuesday; going for 525-535 by Nov.
I know the type, theirs a couple floating around my gym..
I lift at a powerlifter gym, so I get the same shit you get , but from the older guys. I'm catching up to their numbers and it's just that jealousy factor. So I just do what you do, earn the fucking respect, by getting stronger, bigger and prettier XD +1
Ya, congrats, bro.
ty sir.
I gave u a plus one for a solid 500 lift nice work!
well they gotta work out their lower back somehow right? since they probably have terrible form doing squats and deadlifts too
good shit hitting 500 on deads grime!
Hah good point. Thanks bro, Feels good to hit the 500 mark on at least one lift, I gotta
get my bench up to your level now.
Where ya been lately?
I don't think being huge always means strength will be high.
For me I have huge capped delts and people always ask "what do you do for shoulders" or "how much you press?" to be honest I only do like 2 or 3 delt exercises - lateral raises and incline db press. thats it. I don't go over 100 or 110 pounds with dumbbells because My gym only goes up to 120 but either way the 100s feel like a good weight where im not stressing the joints too much or anything.
I know size means nothing because I have a relatively small chest compared to many people and i throw around 3 plates easily and don't usually see guys smaller than me doing that much
squat 405
bench 365
dead - 495
im 220lbs at 6ft
Dude don't make fun of me paid a lot of money for those ballon blow ups lol. I always preexhaust chest then lift light weight higher reps to get a blood pump I never go over 225 so what I check my ego when I walk in the door. Not trying to impress any dudes just want big muscles for the ladies wooooo
6ft
220lbs
365 bench
475 squat
585 deadlift
Your numbers builds more confidence in me. I'm competing in the 181 class, raw. My current stats are...
Bench 330 lbs
Squat 405 lbs
Deadlift 445 lbs
By November I plan on adding an additional 50 lbs to all my lifts.
Bench 380 lbs
Squat 455 lbs
Deadlift 500 lbs
Bro when I make it to 220 lbs; I would look like a beast.Right now I'm at 181-185 lbs at 6%. I want to maintain this weight until after the meet in nov, then I'll put on more weight. What's your BF% bro? And are you a bodybuilder or powerlifter?
I enjoy being a bit more "fluffy" lmao 6% is beast tho.. bf% tests put me around 13% which seems about right.. I don't like getting too lean
Height is the issue for alot of us. You say 220 lbs is looking huge, well ill be the first to admit that at 6'3" and 225lbs w low body fat, I'm not that intimidating to look at. Sure I have size, but my buddy on the other hand is 5'7" on a good day and weighs about 195, but looks like a fucking ox. Point is, at around my height and above, the distance that my arms must travel on a bench is further. I can rack every tricep machine in my gym for sets, but throw me on a bench and my long arms are my down fall. I max at 275, have gone as high as 335 for a 1RM, BUT I won't go past 245 anymore, I'd rather rep it out and keep my shoulders somewhat intact.
I like to use 100lb dumbbells for most of my chest work but every couple weeks I will do reps at 315. Six plates is enough for me. At 40 I am all done trying to show off with one rep max's. I would much rather be able to keep on rocking my work out then be laid up with an injury. I have learned to concentrate on the lift and not the weight. Deads on occasion I will bump to 8 plates but for the most part I limit everything to 6 and I am okay with that.
and squeezing that muscle hard with this weight is plenty to get the job done as well brother. pushing 40 myself need to keep the joints healthy. shit Lee Haney hardly benched more than 225, all about the stretch and contraction.
That's how I feel exactly. I do a fast paced physical job that wears on me, and to be honest, working everyday is more important to me then impressive the college frat boys at my gym. I have long since abandoned the 1RM's in favor of longevity, but every once in a while I'll do a set of 3 reps heavy weights. This is a rarity though. I lift because it is my favorite thing to do besides spending time w my wife and kids and after having a shoulder injury (too much heavy lifting) sideline me for two months last year, I don't have any urge to repeat that mistake!
Truth. Us tall guys gotta travel a mile to get a full range of motion for the bench press. Short guys on the other hand only have to travel a few inches.
Too true. Same goes for squats. The dead lifts are manageable being our arms hang low so I don't see too much of an issue there (that's just me though, as I'm sure some will disagree). My buddy that I mentioned that's only 195 lbs at 5'7" can do reps at 405...being short an barrel cheated as he is, I'd be willing to bet lunch that his range of motion is about 30-40% less than mine.
On my last comp we did the math regarding height/weight balance ...... for me to look as thick and balanced than the guy at 5.10 i had to weigh 3x14lbs heavier.... thats a stone (14lbs) pr inch me being 6.1.
Being tall is a bitch in an open class contest (mixed heights) whereas in my normal class (class 1 tall) we are all pretty much the same weight.
Being in Masters class these days is tough because all these guys are past champions and have been training 30+ yrs.... its tougher now than ever before due to the quality opponents.
past champions, just like you brother. I'll bet they all think, "ooh shit here comes dad, where fucked"...
This is exactly the problem I have! Its not easy benching being 6'3 with arms that hang almost to my knees. When I bring the bar down to my chest my elbows are so far behind my back that it kills my shoulders!.
I actually have had a couple of shoulder injuries in the past and know exactly how you feel. I try playing around with elbow positioning, width of grip and speed of the rep but the end results are all very similar.
I get joy out of jealous looks from the puffy, pretty boy fratbros when I deadlift or front squat twice what they do. I'm 5'10" and weigh between 180-190 depending on the time of year, I've hit 425 on dead lift, 295 front squat, I chest pressed 100's x6 multiple times over my last cycle. I threw up 245 on a textbook form, 1RM clean and jerk earlier this year and you wouldn't know it to look at me. I think I really look pretty normal, just athletic and whatnot. I would actually prefer to not look like I'm roided out like those n00bz. I do believe higher reps and lighter weights certainly have their place, but I'm a heavy lifting ape at heart. That slow to earn, dense, and hardened muscle deep within my flesh is what I thirst for!!!
All kidding aside, I've instructed those same puffy types on proper lifting and seen that a lot of time its just form that limits true strength. Proper training and mobility make all the diffence.
RustyhookerSize and strength dont always mean a thing. My best pound for pound lifts i was under 160lbs. Sone guys are brute string and don't even look like they lift. The bodybuilders in my gym i outlift by a big margin but their thickness is dramatic. Volume over strength. Two types of muscle fibers.
If a 220lb guy can't bench 100lb dumbells he's 220lb of fat, not muscle. Now I've seen THOSE types at many gyms......
LMAO so true.
I still incline flye 50kg D/bells for sets x10..... not for anything else but to still prove to myself i can!..... heavy is the only way that stimulates me correctly, its just how it is unfortunately :(.. i would love to be one of these guys that grew playing with tiny weights but nah! i have to wind myself up into an aggressive frenzy before each workout because i know if i dont it will be fruitless.... like good actors can turn on the tears! i have acquired the knack of turning on MURDER MODE! ... lol
I wish I wasn't at the moment with impending shoulder surgery, but I'm the same. Probably something to do with why I have impending surgery lol!
I have a phrase screamed at me daily at the moment by my training partner, "are you going to let that beat you?".
The answer is and always be the same - "no". Gear or no gear, doesn't matter.
If I can't rep it at least 6 times with perfect form I don't mess with it.......
I'm just not that scientific. I'll work with 3-5 reps on my heavy ass set, keep working with it till it's a comfortable 6-8 then up the weight to something that forces me down to 3-5 reps and rinse and repeat. The result for me is both size and strength. I will do drop sets for volume and very light weight for warm up so my strength is not adversely impacted on the very heavy sets. My ongoing thinking has always been rep out with heavy ass weight, never light weight. So I get a lot of mature muscle density that way. It could be for me that I have crappy genetics as well. I can't get growth from a lot of reps with light weight, never could. I have heard that some people can. I also have enough gym time that my tendons and ligaments have gotten strong enough to handle heavy weight without the risk of injury. (Although I ripped my left distal biceps tendon last summer picking up a 30 lb fixed preacher curl bar off the preacher curl bench - 30 lbs. - rip).
As far as the 100 lb dumbbells are concerned - like Champ said - could be anything - either the guy is tired or he just doesn't work dumbbells that much and his stabilizer muscles are weak. I personally like heavy dumbbells as a staple chest exercise and then go back to the incline and flat bench every couple of weeks.
I have also never ever ever never met in my whole entire life these big weak guys that yall talk about everywhere. I have never seen a guy with thick dense muscle that wasn't as strong as he looked. I have seen much smaller guys that were way stronger than I would have thought. But never the reverse.
It could be a large possibility of reasons. They could be already tired by time they grab those hundreds. I like to incline bench first, flat second, then dumbbells same order, flyes, free weights first, then machine. After doing 8 working sets on incline and bench, those dumbbells get a little heavy, hints the reason their called weight, those people are looking for an injury, they let their pride get to their better judgement. It was once my downfall. They are already tired, they know they should go light, but in their heart they feel like they have to go heavy; even if it's only 4 good reps, 4 reps are better than no reps. And they simply can't complete the entire set. Another reason could be is, they appear big and muscular, maybe a little chest development along with some arms, but their overall weight gives this appearance of a beast, but the reality is; he was once overweight and ls losing body fat, and building some muscles and was just never strong to begin with. Pound for pound I am a beast, but people don't give you credit for pound for pound strength, powerlifting they focus on a total, the compilation of the three heaviest lifts, and bodybuilding isn't measured in the strength of a contested, by their size, conditioning, portions etc. And the last reason I can think of would be, they are just not into lifting that day or they are completely clueless on having a proper training program or training skills; bro it's really hard to walk into the gym rack up 400-500 lbs and kill it, without being in it both physically and mentally, and if you don't know how to build muscle, you've probably going to think like a caveman and grab the biggest weights and do as many reps as possible and the count don't matter. It could be anything bro
Got to work for it bro
Strength is relative. I know guys half my size stronger then me. I believe it's not just about size. It has a lot to do with joint, tendon, ligament strength. With benching particularly long levered people will have a harder time, while short guys with short arms usually are good benchers.
Frankly my goals do not depend on the amount of weight I lift so I could careless if someone thinks I am weaker then I should be for my size. I say take your shirt off homie !! Lol
maybe your working out at the wrong gym!
IronMonkHahah I find these guys at fitness clubs usually.
The hardcore gym I go to literally just says GYM outside. But inside are some of the biggest strongrst nicest people ive met.
Could be a like me where I'm strong as fuck on everything but bench press. But like the others said its most likely they train primarily for size and don't put too much effort into getting strong, which there's nothing wrong with that IMO. I think the only reason I ever got really strong and continue to get stronger is just because I enjoy lifting heavy ass shit and always want more plates on that mutha fuckin bar son! A bar with ten plates on it just looks fucking badass right? Especially when you're curling it... what!?!?
LMAO a bar with 10 5lb plates on it doesn't look that bad ass.......
Hahaha!!
Lmfao.
This is a comparison of strength vs. Hypertrophy
Fawk goin heavy I gave that shit up. Its all about reps for me if I can't get at least 15 reps I drop it some more.