+ 43 getting to know "PIP"
Hey guys, I wanted to drop in and talk a little about PIP or “post injection pain”. I remember when I was first getting started in this game I was always worried about the pain involved with IM (intramuscular) injections. Luckily, all I tried to run my first few years were different combinations of test-e and eq, never already in a blend though, so i never really got PIP. However, then I tried test-450.. everyone at the gym got their gear from the same place, everyone was walking funny from swollen pin sites… the gear was soon named the “450-strut”. Cause it made you walk funny from pain… thought it was the gear, but it was just that high mg/ml content that was falling out of solution in our legs… sound bad, let me explain………
You see PIP is caused by the actual hormone/ester solidifying in your muscle tissue after you pin. See the chemicals (most often Benyzle benzonate and benyzle alcohol) the UGL’s use to make their oils, say CENSORED for instance, have a certain threshold or amount of raw powder that can be dissolved into the oily mixture using these chemicals. Have you ever seen or heard of someone’s gear “crashing”? what happens is the hormones/esters reconstitute or “crystalize” because there is too much “raws” (powders) trying to be dissolved in that given amount of carrier chemicals (BB and BA). Once you understand that you can more understand PIP. See the interstitial fluid in our muscles dilute the oil you pin and thus the hormones/esters crystalize in your muscle. Yea I know right, not cool. Different hormones/esters have different holding levels and different ways in which they will re-solidify or crystalize. Also the hormones all have different temperatures that they solidify at. EQ is a liquid at room temp. therefore very little “carrier chemicals” are needed to keep the compound a liquid in our bodies. Test-prop on the other hand looks tiny bits of sand-like glass when in a raw form, and crystalizes easily and at very high temps. That why test-prop is famous for cause a sore leg or ass; the prop is at 100mg/ml.. well sometimes our bodies suck up the oils before the hormone is absorbed, now the prop you just pinned 12 hours ago is still there except the carrier oils...now you have a little pocket of oil remaining that’s more like 300mg/ml, the hormone crystalizes and the next thing you know you think you have an infection… nope, just a non-infectious cyst half formed glass-like crystals in there.
.. you can best avoid this by first, learning more than just what your lifting buddy told you about gear in the bathroom last week, second by understanding that pinning over 300-400 mg/ml is going to envolve some bit of discomfort if dosed properly, third by NOT listening to people that tell you to pin 2 or 3 ccs of high dose-blends or high mg single compounds at once.. go ask a doctor what happens if you were to pin 500mg’s test at once if you don’t believe me. In fact not getting PIP from a lot of these oils only shows the high skill level most of the top brewers here.
If you are just getting started follow these 3 rules….
1). Always try to pin after a hot shower or bath, it not only helps the muscle receive blood flow to absorb the hormones but it makes for a cleaner pin site to start with
2). Never ever ever pin with the same needle that you used to draw your oils out with.. use a fresh unopened needled.. ALSO USE A FRESH UNOPEN NEEDLE EACH TIME YOU DRAW OLS AS WELL…I laugh when I hear of people using the same needle to draw oils with for their whole cycle.. now that’s a GREAT way to get an infection
3). Don’t pin more than 2cc’s or 500 mg of gear at once. The body must be use to this much and familiar with metabolizing that much at once.
Hope this helped a little…
Your friendly neighborhood Phoenix
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Nice Phoenix ! Yes we see this all the time ! This should help out a lot of members on here !!
Anonthanks, im gonna spend more time helping around here.. its the least i can do
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Anonthanks my man... trying to follow your example...help out and avoid drama
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