posted Sun, 03/19/2017 - 08:00
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Hi, not used anything before. Yesterday i started winstrol 40mg , this morning i took 20mg and about 2 hours later i felt really anxious like i was about to have a panic attack , but did not. Now for the rest of the day i have just felt extremely tired. I have suffered with anxiety some years ago and don't want to get it back. Will this go after a few days or should i stop right away? What's your opinions​ on this?
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He should be ok single dose and all... But lucky he posted so soon, could've really caused some serious issues... A lot wrong with this, his experienced buddy sounds like a real winner
I messaged the guy for advice and he said he's never heard of this before and that he's taken 8 today and is fine.
Good for him. Doesn't change the fact he is an idiot taking 80mg of winny a day to compensate for having no test.
I wasn't defending him. He's also on 3 other compounds which I'm not sure of what they are tbh. When i met him he looked wired aswell , like he wanted to punch something lol.
Winny can make one unstable and aggressive. 80mg is too much.
"Oral only cycles are for those NOT man enough to pin themselves." KMC.
Sounds about right brotato
I'm going to assume someone fat fingered a thumbs down on you,........
Fixed.
I believe it was me, I'm guilty!
+1 for doing the right thing hahaa
Now back to the matter at hand, this freakin oral only non sense
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Let's wait and see...
What do you have stacked with the winny? You need to include your body fat in your stats. It will helps us to know what is going on.
What's your cycle history?
Goals?
On any medication atm?
Are you taking pre workouts or any stimulants?
No history, no medication, some stimulants but i only started the winny yesterday.
It sounds like you were very nervous about taking it in the first place.
I to made the same mistake when I was younger...I took 50mg of anavar and about one hour later started to feel a rushing sensation up and down my body. Instantly I panicked I and the very expensive tub for anavar was flushed down the toilet.
See the problem is people research and instantly get the horror stories about this n that. But the truth is when used sensibly you can have very positive experience.
But you need to do WAY more research before you take the plunge so to speak.
Stick around and learn from this site and its members.....Google luck buddy
Stop!! Winny in my experience is the speed of steroids. If it doesn't agree with you then move on to something else like Var. Why are you taking it anyway?
Yes i will stop , i want to get stronger , leaner and be able to train longer. I like to run , hit the heavy bag and also push weight, so something which is good all round. Which i assumed would be winny after some research.
You have to run test if you are running any other AAS. You need bloodwork, also. That aside, for your goals, try HGH only, but your bodyfat needs to pretty low to start, maybe 10-15%. Spare your HPTA axis.
So all of this aside. Would they really affect me this much after just one day? Could i just be having a bad day?
No not after one day suppression takes time but regardless he's right never oral only test is always a base.
For weight loss check the link out above I've never had to lose weight only gain but I have buddies who are always trying to lose.
*Steroids like test will not noticeably aide in weight loss they will only preserve lbm while you are cutting
*likely you will gain weight from gear
*diet is key (calorie deficit & fasted cardio in the morning)
*Also if you hit a plateau at some point theirs always other options like an eca stack etc but for now I'd just dial in your diet and if your worried about losing muscle a low dose of test can preserve that.
I am a freak. AAS affects me almost immediately. You took a large dose. I have never taken more than 20mg of winny in a day. I seem to remember reading that AAS other than test are actually more powerful in shutting down the HTPA axis. Seriously, it ought to have started to decrease your test production. Regardless, you ought to recover fairly quickly, days, hours, not weeks.
He's said that i can swap them for var, would this be ok alone? I'm assuming this will also need test from the reading i have done. So many conflicting reviews it's hard to know which way to go. Some say use var alone then. Pct , some say you must run it with test.
You shouldn't be running anything. All AAS will shutdown the HPTA axis in nearly no time, 2 weeks. Meanwhile, it slowly shuts it down until it is off. SMH. Do do some more reading, especially at NCBI for science, and here for real experience.
You're fine, don't stress it. Just stop taking won't and you'll be fine.
As he said. No real worries.