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+ 66 Fake Votes, My investigation of crooked sources!

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upon my arrival, after many a day off, I found myself confronted with a great opportunity. It wasnt the first time it had happened, but back when the board was in its infancy it was expected. Sources would do just about anything for a vote and review and many of them where votes made by the source themselves. I spoke with BFG about it a couple times back then, and while it seemed like it was unbreakable there was some changes being made. Fast forward some time and the board has had a facelift or two and things are much more in control, it appears there is some no-nonsense MODs and some quality sources in the rankings, reviews look much better then they ever have and for the most part there is a high success rate of packs and happy customers.

So why am I being asked if I want some free gear if id be willing to review and vote?

Like a member who actually cares about the integrity of the ranking system and the value of not having to just "hope" that the money I just sent off will actually get me a pack and it will be real. If you have been around here long enough you know what I mean. So I took my concerns to BFG and talked to him once again about the ranking, voting, and review system. And i had an idea.

So I was given permission to do the job. I sent out friend requests to the top 50 sources and made them an offer. it looked like this

"Hey Boss, ive been on this site for some time and seen it go through a lot of transformations. its pretty clear that whether sources are allowed to buy votes or not thats what the promos are for. Myself, My cousin, and two of my partners local to me are all long time members here on eroids with several hundred karma points each. All are different IPs with no way to trace us as a group. If you are interested in a trade we would be willing to give you 4 well written reviews, on any compounds you would like, for $200 in trade shipped. Im from the old school and operate on good faith and a mans word so we are willing to leave 2 reviews and votes prior to receiving products and 2 reviews and votes after. If you agree then ill tell you who the second voter will be, and after products land ill tell you who the 3rd and 4th will be. Just in case you decide to go the MODs im not gonna group us all together until deal is done. pretty simple and straight forward, if your not interested no worries there is plenty of sources to go around. you can hit back on my email too."

This is clearly illegal, cant trade products for votes and surely me leaving two reviews before even getting anything to review would have to be fake.

Alot of sources didnt even respond to my PM, or email.

some sources didnt even accept my friend request

  • AAndro
  • MPpharma
  • Alvgear
  • UKanabolics
  • Domestic X
  • UKfitness
  • Tyrant

And some sources told me to fuck off, Kudos to these sources

  • Double G
  • Northern trust
  • Ashop who said no way the MODs would dick throat him LOL
  • 56too who really pretty much told me to fuck off LOL
  • Best steroids who gave a very good response

    Best Steroids
    Hi
    Thanks for the offer but I'm going to have to decline. What you are suggesting wouldn't be ethical. I'm all for you leaving reviews but it would need to be legitimate reviews on experience of our service and products purchased. Anything else would be false and not a true reflection of my service and quality of products. To do as you suggest would undermine my integrity and defeat the object of this site, although I am well aware that not everyone on this site is as conscientious as me.

    Regards
    Best

  • PHARMACOM STORE (Forwards my requests to BFG the same day. "playing the game", to find out about more users to report to BFG)

    Ok, let’s do it. If you’re willing to accept only orals as a donation we can increase that sum to 300$.
    Running really low on all injectables at this moment.
    Darius

  • NAPSGEAR (EDIT: A misunderstanding, src was talking about the promo they're currently running. My apologies. )

    Your order numbers please.

BUT not all the sources where like this, and some of them decided to go ahead with the offer.

  • ROIDSEEK

    yes bro, i am interested and i hope you are honest with me and you are man of your word ;)
    so 4 different orders, $200 each?
    place the orders and give me order ids. i will release them asap
    and with reviews and votes i will also like if you will post pics of the products you got

  • MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT

    ok well i guess i will do it, but only thing is im closed for all of april, because of interpole and their pangea operation. i dont know if you have noticed but most of the top sources have gone missing, thats because of this.
    if you give me a holla 1st May ill sort this out brother

  • MUSCLE GEAR

    I like your offer but I have one concern. We're Canada domestic only. I don't have a problem shipping to US in exchange for reviews but if the mods notice the reviews are from US based members I could have a problem. What do you think?

  • QUADFATHER

    Hello ok well I am interested only because it takes so long to move up the ranks. I sell high quality legit gear and provide great customer service so I feel I am on my way up just not fast enough. What level are you and the three other partners? So I would get 20 votes all together and 4 reviews? Do you have any idea how many positions that would move me up?

  • DGUSA was interested but not right now

    Thanks bro and no we wouldn't go to the mods. If there wasn't so much crap going on right now we would think about it but we are going to remain low key. We do fairly well as it is but the votes, etc would have helped. No biggie-thanks man.

  • 24HREUP seemed interested but never responded to my answer so call it how you see it?

    Hi.
    How many sources do you do this for ?
    sorry that came out really wrong... lol i mean how many sources have you done this for ?

  • MUSCLEDEPOT these are emails

    Hi, yes, we're good to start , let me know what you want for $200 and we can start as you offered 2 reviews now and 2 reviews later.
    If it is 4 reviews we can do it for:
    1) EuroChem products shipped from Europe (let's say Enanject,Decaject and Methanol)
    2) Dionysus products shipped US domestic (DioBeast and Diotest-C 10ml)
    3) Alpha Pharma shipped from Europe (INDUJECT-250 1ml 250mg/ml, Rexogin, Anazole)
    4) EC-Tropin 10iu (HGH) shipped from Europe (1 kit of EC-Tropin 10iu)

    Thanks,
    MD

  • AC

    alright sounds good to me when did you want to do this an what did you need

  • Steroidforyoucom

    just do it

THIS IS NOT WHAT MAKES EROIDS, these sources all take away from the integrity of the site, they shit on the very place that makes them money, and honestly I cant say I would trust any source willing to trade for fake reviews.

Thankyou BFG and MODs for everything you put into this site, all your time and effort to make this place great! I hope that as a regular member my contributions help you continue to build on this vision.

I have forwarded all PMs and gave BFG password to my email account, so if anybody has in questions about legitimacy they can be answered.

ashop's picture

Hi,

I just saw this thread now. I apologize for giving such a XXX answer, it should be more diplomatic refuse from our side.

SuperMans Daddi's picture

That was by far the best answer and funny as hell

mightymouse1000's picture

IMPRESSIVE AND NICELY DONE!!! I thought this was hilarious...aaahahahahah lol!!!!!!

Ashop who said no way the MODs would dick throat him LOL

antclay01's picture

Awesome detective work wtg

Gentauni's picture

lol!!! this was great! really took some balls to put this all up on front street like a pro thats for sure... props brotha!

epoism's picture

What if I give a source a positive review and they then say, "Thanks for the great review. You get free shipping on your next order!"

??

BFG's picture

Added src "Steroidforyoucom" to the wall of shame. Why you'd attempt to buy votes a month after all this went down is beyond me.

Steroidforyoucom's picture

What does just do it means bro ?

BFG's picture

Don't play dumb.

panheaded

we will leave 2 reviews before you send the gear and two reviews after you send the gear. plus 4 votes all of us are high ranking members. Just let me know and will post the first two reviews and place our order. You will ship to one address and we will take care of the rest.

panheaded

are we still on?

Steroidforyoucom

just do it

Steroidforyoucom's picture

I have sent nothing to him .. i do not know him also he is not my customer.. I got several pms and emails from somebody .. But i never sent freebies for fake votes..

Roid Noid's picture

looks kinda obvious you gave him the green light to leave the first 2 fake reviews. bad decision on your part, kinda hard to play innocent on this one. goodluck

Steroidforyoucom's picture

God is big..

CBBurrr's picture

Angus is bigger

IrishMack's picture

Where is 7Gothic? I think I found a bunch of fanboys for him. All the 8 and under karma crowd.

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Jaytheman's picture

Bravo! You are the man! I'd give you a million + if I could haha

BFG's picture

All penalties have been lifted. I hope we all learned from this.

alan180's picture

Also great job panhead. Pure genius.

alan180's picture

Can't believe muscle develop.co went for it, really thought this guy was a straight shooter. Suppose just a reminder of what we are really doing here.

heavylifter's picture

i think this is the typeof things that need should be done to keep things somewha legit ,an open forum like this is definetley an open market for scams ,its also a good way to find stand up guys to work with
i thank and commend u for taking the time to expose some of the untrustworthy organizATIONS umongst this board
i think if you have good clean gear and your honest and responsive to clients and you conduct buisness as advertised by the source then good reputation and reviews will come naturally
i believe that all members here help guide and protect other users to good trustworthy sources ,if we all write bullshit reviews for a lil free gear then it fucks the rest of the members and integrity of the review board
i may be new here ,bit not new to the game we all kinda look out for each other by posting our honest non manipulated reviews
good to see someone looks out a bit

jogibson14's picture

Genius!
If I had any doubts about the integrity of this board, this truly puts it to rest. Great Job panheaded!

All the same,my utmost concern being quality/Legitimacy of the product, I am not sure if this doesn't disconcert me even more, when it comes to ug labs as most sources carry gear from the same labs and some of the unscrupulous players listed above were willing to give these specific brands away and get review on them(With photos and what not) while even some of the sources who turned down the offer (Hopefully because they were truly moral and not because they saw through it) carry products from these labs any ways?

What does this mean then? Are distributors faking ug lab products? is pharmgrade gear just about the only option worth risking my hard earned cash on?

Nextdaygear's picture

You have a lot of free time sir.... Truly Nice Operation, very detailed! We just forwarded your message straight to BFG Smile You'd be surprised how many of these PMs sources get.

stretch_95's picture

Congratulations on the success of a excellent covert op! I some how missed all of this, and have been wondering for a while now just what happened a few sources I had noticed had disappear from the source list. Really got to scratching my head when I discover some had disappear from the top source list since I was last on the board. I am glad to know the board and mods are keeping check on our sources here at Eroids. I worry about a loss of funds each time I donate. I know it is a chance that has to be taken in the game, and the rating system is in place to help protect against such things and identify good and bad source, but I also know there is outside force and things that can happen over night that can cause a loss, and or things of the nature that this covert op uncovered. Thanks again!!!!

MuscleGear's picture

Hey everyone!

I'm one of the sources who got caught. This was an entrapment. I wasn't looking to buy votes and never have. But I'm not here to make excuses. I'd like to apologize to the eroids community and to those members who gave us their votes. We are sorry and embarrassed by this incident. Without a doubt, we made a poor judgement to say the least. We are taking full responsibility for what happened and ask our respected customers for their continued support.

We never bought a single vote. Since our registration just over 2 years ago we’ve gotten 124 votes. Not one is negative. We're an honest source. We provide quality product and treat our customers right.

Of course we're disappointed with the suspension but at the same time we appreciate to be given a second chance. This was a good lesson and we'd like to thank eroids for being transparent and fair.

Regards,
Muscle-Gear.net

Pale's picture

From my perspective, when you start an apology with "It was entrapment" everything you say afterwards falls on deaf ears. Think about that.

T-Rex's picture

Hey PH,

Great investigation and review of the facts/outcome! Have you been watching a lot of 20/20 or msnbc???

My hope is that you can post the sources in the forums in some way shape or form( maybe a sticky) so people can see who: didn't accept your FR's and told you to "F" off. I have a funny feeling that these sources have exceptional products and exceptional reviews already. And they should be rewarded for there stellar business ethics and loyalty to eroids.

When your good, there's no need to act shady. Just my humble opinion.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

( maybe a sticky)

This thread is already a "stickie"...... be careful what you write, stickies get more views than normal posts..... be alert with your comments as thousands will read this.

T-Rex's picture

Viking came... viking saw........... viking deleted.

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Pale's picture

Read the rules.-2, edit never mind , Noid let you off so I will as well.

T-Rex's picture

OK

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Roid Noid's picture

this is gonna get deleted, you write review stuff in the respected sources review section not here!

promowhoreElvis's picture

Friend request sent mate have a question

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T-Rex's picture

OK

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MuscleDevelop's picture

Well I like what you have done here but you have missed out the rest of our PM discussion here. I'm not going to make excuses, but I didn't read all of your PM properly, because if you read my first reply below you will see I clearly thought you were asking for gear in return for a review + vote AFTER you have received and used it.

panheaded
Apr 1st, 2014
Hey Boss, ive been on this site for some time and seen it go through a lot of transformations. its pretty clear that whether sources are allowed to buy votes or not thats what the promos are for. Myself, My cousin, and two of my partners local to me are all long time members here on eroids with several hundred karma points each. All are different IPs with no way to trace us as a group. If you are interested in a trade we would be willing to give you 4 well written reviews, on any compounds you would like, for $200 in trade shipped. Im from the old school and operate on good faith and a mans word so we are willing to leave 2 reviews and votes prior to receiving products and 2 reviews and votes after. If you agree then ill tell you who the second voter will be, and after products land ill tell you who the 3rd and 4th will be. Just in case you decide to go the MODs im not gonna group us all together until deal is done. pretty simple and straight forward, if your not interested no worries there is plenty of sources to go around. you can hit back on my email too.

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MuscleDevelop
Apr 1st, 2014
i couldnt report you to the mods, because you are not tecnically doing anything wrong if you're reviewing a product that has been sent to you, whether or not its free or paid for. but my only problem is how many other sources have you gone around to asking for this same deal?

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panheaded
Apr 2nd, 2014
we planned on hitting up a few sources that we find respectable for a little extra juice, really none of us are hurting for anything so well probably just do it once in awhile.

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MuscleDevelop
Apr 3rd, 2014
ok well i guess i will do it, but only thing is im closed for all of april, because of interpole and their pangea operation. i dont know if you have noticed but most of the top sources have gone missing, thats because of this.

if you give me a holla 1st May ill sort this out brother

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panheaded
Apr 3rd, 2014
yeah sounds good im off for vacation myself

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MuscleDevelop
Apr 3rd, 2014
ok brother, have a good one! speak to ya soon

GRIMEY's picture

You've got a few drops on your chin that you didn't wipe off....

Keep your stroking in the SI's.

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GRIMEY's picture

I'll fix that -1 that knob polisher gave ya.

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Ajax 42's picture

I'll still order from roidsseek, at least they have product that most of the top sources are out of.

markymark's picture
interesting....+1
Rebel Nation's picture

Nice Work on your undercover opp and this shows that you can never trust any shady members are sources. The first thing of protection is Eroids as a community. As it should be. Entrapment if it was a street opp , but this is BFG's world.+1

roidsseek's picture

Good post. I have to say I'm a little gutted as one of the guys I use was among the people taking up the offer.
It will be interesting too see how many of the caught sources post in this thread though.

ok guys, let me be the first source that was "caught" posting in this thread.
yes, i will not deny, i made a mistake accepting this offer. To be honest, i was interested in having some reviews. i haven't managed to tell him that i do not need a review prior receiving the products. I used to send some stuff to guys that participated in EBC but i NEVER asked for a prior review, always asked for a HONEST review on my page even if it is bad. Maybe somebody don't know but I participated with donations in nearly all the EBC from the start.

Of course i don't have excuses, what's done is done :(
these are the consequences....

Boa's picture

this is a good source!!!
love their products!!!
and love do business with roidsseek.com

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Boa's picture

ahhh... ok.... ahhhh ok.... bye

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StevieB's picture

Good post. I have to say I'm a little gutted as one of the guys I use was among the people taking up the offer.
It will be interesting too see how many of the caught sources post in this thread though.