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Eroids is and has been mainly a review site. When the forums came around it was a spot to ask, teach, share and learn.
Back then i participated with the vets and mods and everyone agreed on the basic guidelines that made forums flow nicely.
Eventually, the cycle logs was added to free up forums and create an even better flow. Less of the cookie cutter forums and expansion into moderate and advanced cycles.
But back then the average joe on here already had a solid base or needed minor tweaks to put on that base and then hit their first cycle. Folks wanted to learn and actually pushed to find newer info.
As times changed and the vets left, the site has also changed. Without true leadership, folks will follow anything. What started as solid info and planning has become more of a free for all. We still see the 125 pound kids in the SI openly asking and getting any info requested without question.
So as these changes are here its been long overdue to see what the members want eroids to be or become. It used to be stats, goals, and priors to help custom fit a safe and proper cycle. Built with a foundation of a solid build and firm grasp on fundamentals.
So to the members.... do you want to keep up the standards we set some 6+ years ago? Or do we turn this boat and skip the pertinent info and just blankly answer the questions as posted?
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And how many times do you see high karma guys hawking a source these days?
Not that often anymore, it's nothing compared to how it was a number of years ago.
RustyhookerSo here we go. Info from op does not match . And folks just jump on with no pertinent questions. Captain Save-a-hoe ? Smh....
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/low-or-high-e2-l...
You pussy neg me? for talking about HCG with a 28 year old?
Hope you feel better captain neg-a-hoe
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RustyhookerNo pussy neg. I negged you. Im right on there declaring it.
Give it back Rusty. Just because your gut tells you something don't match, everything else was by the book.
RustyhookerReturned it. Thats the main jist of thos forum. If we just eliminate the 25 year old rule or quit the stats/priors, then theres nothing left to debate. Simply help everyone. Might be a better route?
The guy never claimed to be under 25. We have zero evidence to go on. Unless you have something we don't you are chasing a ghost.
RustyhookerYes, its over. Agree
I am not sure why he was banned, I imagine Greg had a reason.
temp ban for attitude
I didnt see any posts owning it, looked like a pussy neg to me.
Greg laid out the rules in this thread. I am not breaking any. This guy may be skinny compared to you, but he did start out his post with current stats. Did blood work. did research. Came here to discuss and was not expecting to be spoonfed.
Although I am new to eroids per se I am not new to steroid use. I personally avoid providing cycle advice. Specifically in regards to length, dosages and combinations. The challenge that we face is that this is an online experience and without looking into someones eyes we really do not know them and/or their history so how can we actually provide the correct answer for that individual. Without knowing all of the facts, in the attempt to help the individual, we could actually be doing harm. I personally do not want that on my conscious.
A vetting process I'm my opinion is a must, whether online or off. How that is accomplished online I have no idea.
I certainly do not avoid training, nutrition, diet advice or facts concerning specific compounds but when it comes to use I limit my interaction with other forum members to when I see something that is obviously wrong with the dosage or combination and could do harm to the individual.
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Well that's a good start on your behalf and I agree 100% about the sdvice. I mean this is the web and really don't know the age of a lot if people but it isn't that hard to spot them either....
Welcome to the forum.....
Welcome. Good start.
RustyhookerWelcome aboard!!
I found this site a little over a year ago but that was after trawling through a lot of shit websites, forums and pages designed to sell fake gear or supplements with "steroidy" sounding names.
My point is that, thanks to idiots on the internet, it is very easy to become misinformed even with the best of intentions.
Its difficult, I believe that those kids that come here with stupid ideas and bad judgement SHOULD be treated with a heavy hand and it's important that they get with the idea that they need to slow down, shut the fuck up and learn. That what they are getting into is actually a big deal and quite possibly life changing, but it is important that we keep them around so that they can learn from these guys here. I actually think that the Mods, the vets and every other valued member here, new and old, already does a very good job of doing exactly that and that concerns like Rusty's post here are only raised because everyone cares. At the end of the day it is all these valued members that have made the site what it is and inevitably it becomes their job to enforce these strict standards.
Those that come here with simply shit, dangerous attitudes that just want cheap gear make themselves known quite quickly and they rightly get dealt with swiftly.
Get to fuck
Mouths on twigs
Lol
Twiggieeez!
RustyhookerThe internet is our bezt and worst friend, no doubt!
That is why I still say at least check stats on some members. I know half of them or more are lieing about age anyway but some still post it...
It's also not that hard to figure out who is legit far as just to reading and follow what they post.....
I have been here for a few years myself and there so much knowledge here from new members as well as the good ole vets...
That being said everyone new or seasoned members need to do there part here to try to keep all safe and report shit to mods that don't seem right....
Hopefully this site will still be here for all of us to enjoy and agree and disagree on subjects as we all learn and also try to teach as well.....
I mean dam anyone can come here and be a member don't cost a dam penny to learn and become a good member and help as well....
Way before this site we ole dudes had to trial and error on ourselfs human guinea pigs to see what worked and didn't work because a lot of people wouldn't help anyone else or didn't give a shit about nothing but them selfs....
So a word of wisdom to the newer members as well as some others don't take this site for granted its a lot easier than the ole day's and members are willing to help each other to certain points.....
Can you imagine if us ole asses had this site avaliable when we started our journey......WOW.....
Peace and be kind to each other and also think about you say before you say it.....
I was drawn initially to this site due to the sources and rating system, but I found brothers that talk the talk and walk it, too. The people on this site didn't care if I was a bodybuilder or boxer, most just wanted to make sure I gave a damn. Some people have no business taking roids, and here is where we find them out. The advice and knowledge shared here is what keeps me coming back. The drama means nothing because in the end, we each get to make our own decisions. Thanks to Eroids and our brothers and sisters, those decisions are just a little more informed.
RustyhookerHigh five! Appreciate that input
Eroids is the best, and will be because the brains here is out of the world, no bro science here. Kids come here looking for a bro science answer and when they get told the scientific answer they get pissed. Eroids is like a doctor visit without the co-pay seriously.
Eroids is great, but it does have its share of broscience.
Hitman187Alot of kids come here with an idea already in their mind and are set on what they wanna do. They dont come here with an open mind seeking advice to better set themselves up in the future. They just want someone to cosign their usually dumb idea, pat them on the back and tell them their idea is good to run with. Then when they here the truth they dont like it.
RustyhookerIts certainly nice that regardless of clock time, that there's always someone on that can guide us towards answers, forums etc.
As I woke up this morning with a banned tag on another forum I was reminded of a Direction that eroids has never wavered from. Admin and mods always put members before sources.
On this forum you get a thank you from the mods when you point out fake reviews. other forums you get rewarded with Bandcamp.
Ban camp ain't so bad when you have someone there you know.
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RustyhookerVery true!! That alone separates the good from not so good sites. Few decades ago the level of scams was crazy. Here we can research wisely and be fairly confident. Barring the processes theres no control over....cough...customs....cough.
I'll i have to say is meso sucks ass
There's a lot of great info on Meso
Its true, tons of smart dudes there.
Lots of knowledge on lots of forums.
And they all have there own shortcomings, cherry pick the good parts from more than one board and its all good
Drugs! Drugs! Drugs!
Really though these people need to try the whole lifting thing first.
I do have to say that Eroids has higher standards and more concerned about people's health than all the other steroid review sites. I was bored awhile back and and decided for shits and giggles to see what kind of info I could gleen from the other sites. It was complete utter crap. People were dishing out cycle info right and left to anybody and everybody. Kids 18-20 yrs old who were 5'10" and 165 lbs was the norm. The mods and vets on those sites were the ones recommending that these anorexic kids should be good to go running tren for their first cycle. I shit you not. And then we wonder why steroids get a bad rap. These fools are suggesting cycles like this for kids who are nowhere near ready to even be sniffing steroids let alone pinning them. Without the rules we have in place here, Eroids would just be another shit show like the other sites are. If you want to run a responsible and healthy cycle and get the most gains out of it, Eroids is your place. If you want someone to cosign your bullshit cycle go somewhere else. If you are not ready to run a cycle or are proposing a cycle that is way over your head, Eroids will let you know and if you listen you will be better off for it. If you get an attitude, then natural selection will take its course.
I know for a fact there have been alot of people that came here just wanting a cosign, but after some tough love here there eyes were opened and they realized that just running a cycle wasn't going to help them achieve there goals because they were clueless about nutrition and some even training and we opened their eyes that running a cycle won't do crap without all the pieces in place. Many of those poeple have put cycling off for down the road and are realizing the significant gains they are making on just diet and training manipulation. I envision Eroids as a one stop shop for a holistic approach to achieve the body you desire. We have diet info, training info, cycling info etc. etc. and yes even reviews to help you make an informed decision when you are ready to purchase some AAS for your cycle. So if we stop asking for stats, priors, what is your diet and training, what is your goal and so on Eroids loses it's Identity and just becomes another YOLO review site.
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Spot on as always.
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Good post Rusty! You know my take on this, already! Plus, we need to see true leadership, critical thinking, and more of a holistic approach when it comes to addressing safety of AAS, especially if someone is going to provide professional medical advice.
I've been around AAS since I was 17. I've seen use, misuse and abuse from many angles, the damages that it can cause, and when used correctly, the achievements that can be obtained. However, it's still illegal and that's not going to change, so we have to continue treating AAS from a safety sensitive perspective, since this site exists.
RustyhookerAt least if we can take words on a screen and turn it into a spot where we understand the level and needs of members. Without dialog....its only words.
That's true. Takes patience, time and much understanding, which isn't an easy task, but Eroids does make it better than trusting the "big guy" at the gym...
RustyhookerNo doubt!! How mant forums of "my ifbb trainer...." that showed bs and serious consequences. Lol
Too damn many...lol..I've got a friend that the big guy fixed him up with a deca and an unknown oral, maybe winstrol? Idk..it was crazy...I saw the pills in his glove box one day...I said what the hell are those...he said the big guy gave them to him...I said they look like birth control pills...lol...they were a pinkish orange pentagon shape this was back in '97....he said he didn't like them cuz they made his left arm hurt...It wasn't too much later that my friend was diagnosed with testicular cancer...he'd been doing quite a bit of anhydrous meth, too...I asked him if the big guy new he was using dope and he said no...I was mad because the big guy just didn't give a flip about my friends health....my friend still trusts him today...one nut later and years down the road...he still trusts him...crazy and naive...I've been trying to turn him away from the big guy since 2002...big guy has a tug on him...
Sociopaths will conduct experiments on willing subjects. Buyer beware, know your friends.
So true...
I have been here a relatively short time... but there is one element that I'll debate...
I will agree in the value of every interaction/discussion beginning with "Stats, History, etc."... yet, there are occasions where "Vets" (dudes with high karma) are not complying with that, and they bully newbies requesting that info...suggesting that it's not necessary...
Onto the area of debate. The site is "eroids"...not "ebodybuilding"... Vets (like you) shun and bully guys that aren't bodybuilders requesting info for performance. I've found that unless you are a bodybuilder or powerlifter then Vets (like you) are not willing to assist... or pass on your knowledge/experience.
Respekt.
Im not having a dig on you.
Seems like your hung up on karma/ rank/ vets etc.
All the main guys here that you see, that are regulars do not judge on karma, infact we are the ones who preach equality, i do not think i am better than anybody on the site at all just because my karma ( experience ) on the site is higher.
Everyone has the oppurtunity to contribute to the site as much as the next.
Mods do a good job of making the board flow and keeping things fair, if they see any unwarranted " abuse " " bullying " or favourtisim they will jump straight on it.
Again as always its a steroid related forum, not a nannas knitting club.
Cheers
Actually, I don't care about Karma/Rank/Vets... I don't care about promos, I don't care about interacting with sources... I really only care about sharing knowledge & learning more, and having a quality listing of sources that the community validates for my protection...
One cannot deny that for a newbie to the site "karma" appears to equate to "knowledge" and/or being a "vet"... I'm not suggesting that those dudes think they're better than others, but those dudes tend to be the regulators of the flow of things...
I don't care about bullying = I don't have feelings...
I'm simply pointing out the flaw in Rustyhooker's post... he's part of the "inner circle"... as you are... if you guys don't have the uniformity & consistency then it goes to shit...
As always, Respekt.
The only one keeping you out of the "inner circle" is you. I don't see you as being on the "outside" and I'm sure others don't as well. Look, see that, I just took off your training wheels. Go forth and be an alpha member of eroids. You are MOD sanctioned.
Your point is taken but, I believe, a little overstated.
The pool of "eroid vets" span the years from 2011 to 2016. Older vets are usually more consistent than their newer peers. Granted you'll get those who'll leap before they look. Some of it, as I pointed out below, is misperception because older vets tend to know the personalities/histories of those they are talking to, and, have learned ways to find information using stats, heartbeat, stream, tracking, reviews, pics, etc.
If you see someone answering a question without asking for stats, you have just as much of a right and obligation as Rusty to call him out with all caps, red ink, and exclamation marks. Just try and be kind to newbies (them) now that you're part of the inner circle (us)
Greg = 1... Caeser = 0
Well played sir... well said...
Point understood...
Now you've imparted "responsibility" on me... DANGIT! I should've kept my trap shut!
RustyhookerThats where its up to the OP to give clear direction of their goals. This isnt a true bodybuilding or power site.
However, some twig 165 at 6ft tall will not be getting steroid info period! That is a cosign and wont be happening. Any dufus off the streets with similar stats can blow up to 200+ just with proper food and training THEN if needed, blast the gear.
How do i know? 30+ years sweating it out..... lazy is not an excuse nor acceptable
There needs to be that written dialog. A question that seems redundant often times uncovers the OP dont know crap.
Dude got pip....folks just blankly post warming oil info. Find out OP has ONLY 1 pin spot and 5 weeks in. Thats a daily around here with the site. No chatter. No full picture. But....a TROLL pops on and theres 185 replies just to bicker his tren and drol doses given his 165 at 6ft cutter status
Youngsters pop in demanding a slow comfortable massage, cosign and a lollypop. Giving in to the snowflakes is the problem.