Eating healthy vs shit food
Has anyone ever told you, "You are what you eat!" There is a balance to diet. If you eat clean and have low carbs perhaps 150 to 200g a day carb cycling. You will have lower risk of having high E2, bloating, and other unwanted sides. If you eat shit thinking you are going to get big and muscular fuck no you're going to have muscle but you're going to look like a bloated fatass. You can eat clean for about 4 to 5 days and have a cheat meal ever day afterwards which is called balance or a refeed. I eat every 3 hours until I go to bed and only have carbs meals 1,3,5, and 7 sometimes. Some people have there own ways of doing certain things but I can say I have figured out that these work the best. There are sometimes when I even have a 0 carb day just to get leaner. Hopefully this makes since. People count cals I don't I count macros. Long as I make a certain criteria everyday I'm happy and I make leans gains.
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Different people can eat different things. It's not that simple.
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x3 my metabolism is crazy fast and I'll be 34 this year and hasn't slown down one bit since childhood and to be honest even if I ate McDonald's Ed I still wouldn't get fat, I've done it. Even though I tend to eat healthier things these days it just doesn't matter what I eat I'm cut either way. Everything that has to do with training and aas is purely individualistic.
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what works for one might destroy another!!
ShreddedfreddyI'll say again! Stick to the basics and you won't be destroyed! Ive seen certain people on here the past few days that seem lack of knowledge of what diet is plus more than 15% bf. No offense to anyone just what I see. What is the point of taking steroids if you are going to look only worse. Unless your a power lifter why would you want to look fat or bulky or whatever. I for one like to look muscular. It just doesn't make since to me. On the other hand basics every 3 hours steak chicken or fish or a protein shake. Intake 200g of carbs at least a day. If your a bigger guy then I'd say 300 maybe 350 a day. Fat and big are two different things though. The steroids will keep you from going in a catabolic state and keep you anabolic. Which 200g of carbs is more than enough.
I absolutely agree with some of what you said, but there are many variables that influence carb intake.
You could switch to 30g carbs per day and lose fat while retaining muscle or adding some via extra fat cals and upping carbs to replenish muscle only.
Or if you were in contest prep your needs would differ
Or if you had diabetes, you would likely differ from the norm
So, I would say that of course there are universal guidelines that do work - we all know that, however no one size fits all, never does.
ShreddedfreddyIf you stick to the basics then you have nothing to worry about.
I think genetics have a lot to do with all aspects of bodybuilding and using gear. I for one can't use test higher than 400 and mark my words my diet is clean AF. I have to eat dry food, no sauces, no going out to dinner with the fam. Just dry seasoning and broccoli or any other Veg. These are the sacrifices I have to make when I'm serious about my physique recomp.
ShreddedfreddyMy best friend is this way! Lol! I'm like mf'er you need more than just chicken and broc... He's like no carbs bro... Hes big as fuck though.
Thanks for helping clear that up.
ShreddedfreddyIt took me years to figure this out but I did. Some people just need to open there ears and listen.
AnonGood post, and honestly wish I could eat cleaner but sometimes ends up being impossible with the type of work i do and lack of sponsors i have. Growing up we only ate what we killed or grew and I was as lean and shredded as they come but when i turned 18 and joined my beloved Corps, I saw the world and my taste buds were turned against me, luckily I still lifted and stayed in shape. Now days at roughly 265lbs, I eat whatever isnt bolted to the floor and train like a mad man. So far its working for me, but my goals are different than most and I dont plan on living forever.
ShreddedfreddyI have a friend that puts boiled chicken breast and puts it in baggies then pulls it out at work and eats the mf'er lmao with greasy ass hands!
AnonI havnt ate chicken in a few years due to a back to back food poisioning adventure I had where chicken was involved, I eat a lot of turkey though, ground turkey burger with some olive oil, pepper and mixed with rice is the shit. I guess i could carry that stuff in a cooler.
ShreddedfreddyI love ground turkey I'll put a little steak seasoning and pepper seasoning in it. Damn good... Damn that sucks about the chicken though. I'm not a big fan really but it's a must. I love white rice. Especially chicken and rice during bulking season.
If I had to live forever, I'd kill myself
Wait, wut?
What you grow or kill is the best food you can eat. The shit we buy today ain't even real food
Problematic for those of us who don't have the heart to kill an animal. Not that I judge hunters, I just could not ever do it.
AnonNothing wrong with that and with a cherokee background it was always customary for me to thank the animal after the kill. It tugs at your heart strings but once you taste that fresh backstrap or tenderloin your balls come back. What I hate about some hunters is they know they injured the animal and find a blood trail but give up on tracking it, pisses me off more than about anything.
ShreddedfreddyI hunt every year. Love it but I hunt with a rifle. I haven't missed in a very very long time. It's not hard to hit something with a rifle. Keeps my freezer full of meat year around.A few hundred pounds of deer meat you can't beat it!
I know two sisters that are trying to be bow hunters. Mossy oak fashionista type girls. They shot at least 5 deer last year. Never found one of them.
They got pissed off at me when I finally said something.
They don't even retrieve the meat. Those are called animal abusers, not hunters. There's no sport in that.
I'm not gonna try to change your view as everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't view it as killing an animal I view it as harvesting food to provide for my family.
Nothing against it like I said. I just personally don't have it in me. I even refuse to kill spiders for my fiancée because they're innocent creatures. I set them free.
Hitman187I can relate i have a soft spot in my heart for animals and creatures. I have to change the channel everytime i see one of those as
ShreddedfreddyComing from the hitman! Lol
I'm exactly the same mate......won't kill anything
Counting macros is counting calories.
(4P)+(9F)+(4C)=kcals
I'm still trying to figure out what works best too. Kinda learning this whole bodybuilding thing in general as I go. Best way to do it. Real experience, not just holed up with some book or smartphone
ShreddedfreddyNo I know I have a set intake of macros every day. I never add up my cals. I adjust my carbs and fats my protein stays the same at around 300g a day.
srt8calinice post. having a tough time with my bloat as we speak. i'm on a 2300 cal diet which is a 500 deficit and 200g of those are carbs. would you say that's a lot of carbs to be on a cut? they also consist of white potatoes, -la piece of bread and the rest are from my weight gainer
ShreddedfreddyWhen cutting I like to use sweet potatoes and oatmeal only. I would have a couple of low days of carbs like 120 then 3rd and 4th day I like to raise them to 180/200g of carbs.
Even while cutting I like to consume high glycemic carbs immediately after training to get that insulin spike. In fact almost all of my carb intake consists of a high carb meal before training and a high carb meal after. That seems to be what works best. The rest of the day is pretty much just some sweet potatoes and broccoli as far as carbs are concerned. Maybe I'm doing it right, maybe not, but it's doing something.
ShreddedfreddyYes I forgot that. When cutting though I try to stay away from high glycemic like rice and shit because I retain water and bloat easy. When I cut though I'm talk about 6-8%bf
No carbs for breakfast ?
ShreddedfreddyYes always carbs for breakfast. I think that's when you want to consume most of them.
If trying to cut, you want to avoid carbs for breakfast. Sometime during the night,your body has switched over from glucose (carbs) as an energy source to burning fat for fuel. As soon as you eat carbs for breakfast the fat burning furnace is turned off and it starts using the carbs you just ate for a fuel source. Prolong that fat burning time by having a high protein moderate fat breakfast instead and avoid the carbs. Ham and cheese omlet is perfect.
What if you train right after breakfast though? I don't know about you but weight training in a carb depleted state is brutal for me
I need fuel for a productive workout so I would be eating a well balanced breakfast which would include carbs. They would be higher GI carbs to restock the glycogen in my liver and muscle tissue at a more rapid pace so they would be ready to go if I was to workout shortly afterward (say like an hour or so after eating). But if your ultimate goal is shredding up fast, limit the morning carbs before your workout. I would also be drinking down copious amounts of BCAA's pre and intra if doing that though.
AnonWhat do you recommend for a guy that is 6' 267lbs and has a goal weight of 275 but cannot get there, unsure of my body fat but i have defintition in my abs not like you, but you can see the ab muscles without flexing but my goal isnt definition its more just size. I eat, eat, eat and eat and 267lbs is like the end of the rope for me.
Wrong pal
At rest your body preferably runs on fat, not carbs
I train in the early morning so my pre WO meal happens to be my breakfast